Posted on 04/18/2006 3:26:57 AM PDT by Mad-Margaret
Torie,
That's Nancy Grace.. I thought we were all people.
Apparently White women aren't as sympathic a figure as black women.
Trust me, every one of these player (as well as their families) have suffered. Even when this all ends (and I doubt it will EVER go to trial), these men will have this stigma attached to them forever. Seriously, what is the big deal of keeping receipts? I have files full of insignificant receipts going back years, some people throw things out, others don't. When are these talking heads going to start asking why she was in police custody for over an hour before rape was even mentioned. This case is totally race and class based and I am shocked that so many FReepers are falling for it. If it turns out to be true and the stripper was raped, then it is awful. However, NOTHING I've seen leads me to believe that a rape was even POSSIBLE, let alone true.
I can go online to a title company site, and learn just about everything I need to about a property, the date purchased, the price, the liens, any refinancings, the assessed value, the square feet of the home and the lot, you name it. It takes about 3 minutes. I can see by address, street name, owner name or parcel number. If you want privacy, put your home in a family trust, which doesn't use your name, and even though you technically should, don't put yourself down as owner as trustee of the trust, just use the name of the trust.
I do not know if it has been established the students were inappropriate. It has been asserted, but not proven. Today's kids seem to do more "inappropriate" things than I did as a kid.
Do you think its o.k. to hire "strippers" to perform at a party in a college environment?
By her own assertion, nay, her own insistence, she is NOT a "stripper", but and exotic dancer. Exotic Dancers will tell you over and over they NEVER do anything illegal--just ask her.
Do you think jocks feel they aren't privileged characters on campus?
Who doesn't feel like they are entitled to some sort of "privilege" on campus these days? Every left-wing lunatic, including the professors, thinks they're entitled to cram socialism down every student's throat.
Do you think its o.k. to shout racial epithets at a woman?
Stupid is as stupid does. Whether any of those numb nutz actually did it hasn't been proven, just because the "victim" said it happened. Even if it did, it's a far cry from the N word to the R word.
What about the e-mails from one of these young paragons of virtue concerning skinning a black woman??
I never said they were all saints, but how about we go about getting a warrant to access the victim's e-mails to see if she has any of Louis Farakahn's racist diatribes recorded there. Would that then make them both equally reprehensible?
Do you think the majority of kids at Duke shelling out $25,000 per year plus represent the middle class working American family?
Average working class families are willing to pay what it takes to get their children a good education--even if they have to make some sacrifices to do it. I know that is a foreign concept to many in this country today, but some will still do it. Whether $25,000 buys a better education at Duke than less money would somewhere else is debatable.
Even if there was consensual sex initially, and we don't even know for certain there WAS sex, but SOME evidence indicates it occurred, do you think a woman would permit it to continue until she was physically injured?
Again, it has not been proven any of the players had sex with her. If there is evidence of sex, she could have had it with someone else either before or after the alleged incident. I doubt her business card read "Sister Theresa, Exotic Saint-Dancer".
There are so many factors involved here that indicate these guys were totally out of line and the least they should be facing is expulsion from college.
You obviously know more details of this than I do, but does not mean you know any more that is relevant and true. Let the courts (as corrupt as they are) establish what is or is not a fact--then we'll decide.
If YOU were a Duke alumnus how would YOU feel about this publicity??
I wouldn't like it, but I don't know who the real villian(s) is/are. Whether it's the dumb jocks, the race-baiting "victim", or the political whore prosecutor, but when all the dust settles, someone better pay--BIG TIME!.
I'm a human being and she embarrasses me too! :-)
That woman's soul is just black.
Why didn't she say so in the beginning? She said she was ORALLY raped (forced oral copulation - type of sodomy, actually). It's the same story as the condoms. Mangum never said she was blindfolded or that her eyes were shielded, so far as we know. She outh to have been able to SEE what was being forced into her mouth!!
Nancy Grace and CNN
are so irresponsible. They've reported about 10 things in error already.
Notice on Abrams - the lawyers were all saying they would've run to the DA if they had evidence their client had an alibi - Get it out there.
On Nancy Grace, it's a major blunder to provide the alibi or make it known.
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Nancy Grace is saying that Nifong has just gotten another warrant for yet another player's dorm room!
Very, very easy, and Nifong is so desperate and has demonstrated a track record of unethical behavior, there is no way I'd let my client submit, especially without the DNA pattern for the exemplar being established first.
One would think the dorm rooms would be pretty clean by now, if there was something to hide.
Just finishing watching Graceless now (5-6 PM CA time, CNN Headline News, NOT Court TV!):
- First minute or two of show: "...and apparently they already have 'alibis' (very exaggerated finger-quotes gesture, includes every muscle up to the shoulders)..."
- "Some say this is preferential treatment, these sealed indictments..." Attacks guest who calls the booking "a humiliating process", now being arrested on a Saturday night and having to stay overnight, that's humiliation, you see. (Does not mention that indictment was less than 24 hrs previous)
- First comparison to Scott Peterson at 5:20 (montage of perp walks, also includes OJ, Robert Blake, etc.)
- Even more angry than usual at guest (prematurely?) mentioning possible alibis. "THANK YOU for expanding on that, but please answer my original question...!"
- Appalled at footage of neighbors near suspects' homes in NY/NJ being interviewed. Neighbors' main concern seems to be that the boys have been arrested, why aren't they be disgusted that the suspects could have RAPED this woman!?
- JACKPOT!: Indignant, scoffing at reports that suspects have ATM receipts
- FULL-NOSTRIL DRESS-DOWN of assistant who refers to defendant by first name rather than as "Mr. ----". Also aghast that he mentions home values of defendants' parents. MUST SEE TV! (45 minutes into show)
- States that false rape claims are in the low single-digits percentage
- MUST-SEE TV!: (47 minutes into show) Incensed at guest who suggests that "suspects' lives may be ruined by a false accusation". Attacks and interrupts him so violently that director puts up a cracking-whip graphic and sound effects
- ANOTHER search warrant issued for a dorm room
- If you didn't know about the ATM receipt possibility, you sure ain't gonna get any more details here
Replay begins one hour from now! And then again at 10 PM CA time
Police Follow Up Arrests With Duke Dorm Search
POSTED: 6:33 pm EDT April 18, 2006
UPDATED: 8:40 pm EDT April 18, 2006
DURHAM, N.C. -- Hours after charging two Duke University lacrosse players with rape, Durham police searched a dormitory room on the Duke campus for more evidence in the case.
Investigators executed a search warrant and searched a room at the Edens 2C Residence Hall. There was no immediate word on what police hoped to recover in the search.
http://www.nbc17.com/news/8806553/detail.html
LOL. Nancy is like some Dominatrix out to humiliate that poor "Let's look at the visuals" guy. She just whacked him with her verbal whip because he referred to "Collin" instead of "Finnerty".
Is there any confirmation of Nancy Grace's interpretations of the newsweek photos? She says there is no evidence of the woman being bruised before walking in.
Maybe Nifong can help OJ find the real killer, too...
YES.
And hookers are "escorts" now. A decade ago we had a serial rapist in the White House and the media was busy redefining sex for him.
I think you nailed it!
mystery, here's a GREAT synopsis of Nancy's show!
They CAN discount her testimony, but they won't if they're black.
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