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Grand Jury Adjourns in Duke Lacrosse Case
Houston Chronicle ^ | April 17, 2006, 2:26PM | TIM WHITMIRE

Posted on 04/17/2006 12:50:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: brittmac
The grand jury system is a tragic fraud.

It wasn't supposed to be, but it is true. There is little to hinder a malicious DA from using a grand jury for his own personal ends. Almost no ordinary citizens are aware of this potential misuse of the system.

21 posted on 04/17/2006 1:26:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Another handgun jumps to the aid of a person in danger.)
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To: iPod Shuffle

the issue here is whether the merits of the case justify a rape indictment - regardless of the race of either the alleged victim or the accused.

but that's the key phrase - "regardless of race". do you think this case is devoid of a racial component? was the Tawana Brawley case? Kobe Bryant (race and celebrity in that one)?


22 posted on 04/17/2006 1:30:17 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY

You got it!


23 posted on 04/17/2006 1:31:42 PM PDT by usslsm51
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To: Navy Patriot
true. There is little to hinder a malicious DA from using a grand jury for his own personal ends.

An ex-parte order from a judge does slow down the little p%icks some, sometimes.

That, and dirt on their other activities...

Deal with the mob, deal with the government. It's all the same.

Mao was correct. All power comes from the barrel of a firearm.

I may not be coming across as a law-and-order patriot... that's not the intent..

/johnny

25 posted on 04/17/2006 1:40:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: Constitution Day

Isn't it a b#t[& when you watch the OJ trial in CA, the cannibal in Oklahoma, the woman cutting a child from a womb in rural Missouri and then some bunch of idiots in your own state starts and continues a two year train wreck right in your home turf?


26 posted on 04/17/2006 1:46:03 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: nickcarraway

I object to the racial references on this thread and the use of the "w" word. This is offensive. What has her race got to do with it? and linking her race up to drunk, stripper and the "w" word is just wrong. I am not speaking ill of the posting, just some of the comments.


27 posted on 04/17/2006 1:47:16 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: nickcarraway

bttt


28 posted on 04/17/2006 1:48:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: KC Burke

Most definitely.

It's like Greta van Facelift has invaded my local news!


29 posted on 04/17/2006 1:50:57 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Comicalness Don't Win No Medals)
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http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LegalCenter/story?id=1851817

Indictments Handed Up in Duke Rape Investigation
Nature of Charges Remains Sealed

April 17, 2006 — The grand jury considering the Duke lacrosse team rape allegations has adjourned for the day and has handed up indictments, all of which are sealed.

The grand jury in Durham, N.C., brought 81 indicted charges, 24 of which were carried forward to be heard at another time.

A source told ABC News there may be sealed indictments against members of the lacrosse team, and members of the defense team were told they will somehow be contacted by the judge or prosecutor if they have a client. They were still waiting for news late Monday afternoon.

This puts the attorneys in a touchy position because they will be told their client has been indicted but not what the charge is and how many counts, making it difficult to defend.

However, a sealed indictment does not mean an arrest must be made though it does provide the prosecutor leverage with potential defendants who believe once their names are public their reputations will be destroyed....(more)..

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LegalCenter/story?id=1851817

30 posted on 04/17/2006 1:51:59 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: JRandomFreeper
I may not be coming across as a law-and-order patriot...

I wouldn't say that, recognition of a problem is not advocation of unlawful behavior, far from it.

The founders wrote a wonderful and excellent basis for our government and law, however they could not make it idiot proof. It is susceptible to the flaws in the ethics and morals of those officers sworn to defend it. Recognizing that will help it live longer.

31 posted on 04/17/2006 1:57:08 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Another handgun jumps to the aid of a person in danger.)
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To: monkapotamus

This again just says the DA has nothing, is going to try to get the players to sqeal because they are going to be charged with something (they won't even know what it is). What a crock.


32 posted on 04/17/2006 1:58:48 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: CatoRenasci

CatoRenasci says Drudge says ABC says sealed indictments.


33 posted on 04/17/2006 2:00:24 PM PDT by TankerKC (Sorry I missed the protest, I had to work.)
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So, with sealed indictments, the DA can make a public arrest and perp walk anytime he wants the coverage and the defendants have no chance of presenting themselves for arraignment?
34 posted on 04/17/2006 2:13:04 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: KC Burke

Yep. And you can bet there will be a perp walk...despite the fact that defense attorneys have stated publicly their clients will submit to arrest whenever/wherever. What a douche bag that DA is.


35 posted on 04/17/2006 2:19:54 PM PDT by Tulane
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To: nickcarraway

As THEY say, and as a former Grand Jury Foreman I know, a D.A. can get a ham sandwich indicted by a Grand Jury, since no other point(s) of view are allowed to be presented.


36 posted on 04/17/2006 2:23:15 PM PDT by UScbass
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To: KC Burke

Sealed indictments are ridiculous. If you face a sealed indictment you are at a HUGE disadvantage because you can't keep available whatever evidence you need for your defense. The prosecutor can spring his evidence whenever he/she wants, yet the accused has to scramble to defend himself. In this case the DA wants the accused to have to scramble, and potentially cave under pressure. These are often used in drug indictments when the DA is trying to work up the chain from smaller dealers to bigger ones, but you don't want to tip anyone off you are investing their network. He's just trying to shake guys down for more information because he doesn't have squat.


37 posted on 04/17/2006 2:24:25 PM PDT by cdga5for4
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To: UScbass
can get a ham sandwich indicted by a Grand Jury, since no other point(s) of view are allowed to be presented.

Unless you have a meat eater for a lawyer, and he finds out about the arraignment, and about 12 zillion other things go right.

/johnny

38 posted on 04/17/2006 2:28:40 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Is a "sealed indictment" like you are not allowed to know the charges against you? What is this, Kafka?


39 posted on 04/17/2006 2:38:38 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy
Kafka wrote fiction.

Welcome to the real world. People's reputations are being destroyed as we speak.

/johnny

40 posted on 04/17/2006 2:45:20 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (D@mit! I'm just a cook. Don't make me come over there and prove it!)
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