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To: Wolfie
Call it a "Patriot Card". We'll line up like lemmings.

That's pretty much the gist of it. There were plenty of illegals around during Clinton's time in Office, and we had plenty of high-tech methods for a national ID, but most Conservatives were against a National ID.

I dont' think people really understand what these will be eventually used for. Today, it's federal facilities, banks, airlines, etc., and tomorrow it will be amusement parks, checkpoints, etc., and so on and so forth.
16 posted on 04/17/2006 9:08:46 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
I dont' think people really understand what these will be eventually used for. Today, it's federal facilities, banks, airlines, etc., and tomorrow it will be amusement parks, checkpoints, etc., and so on and so forth.

Exactly right...a National ID card is not going to "protect" any of us...and, in any event, the feds are less interested in protecting the American people than in making sure the American people feel they need to rely on the feds to protect them. The great state of NH is always on the frontlines of the battles against the federal nanny state:

New Hampshire bill aims to prevent Katrina-style gun seizures

Concord NH--Concerned by perceived abuses of Federal power during the Katrina crisis, New Hampshire state reps are reviewing a bill which would criminalize certain weapons seizures - even if the perpetrators are Federal officers. House Bill 1639-FN, prohibits the confiscation of lawfully owned and lawfully carried firearms during a state of emergency, making a felon of any law enforcement officer who attempts to seize such a firearm during a disaster.

The bill was sponsored by Rep. Paul Hopfgarten at the request of local Free Staters - members of a group trying to recruit freedom lovers to New Hampshire and turn it an even more libertarian state than it already is

The bill reads: "Any law enforcement officer, person acting as a law enforcement officer, or other public official who confiscates or attempts to confiscate lawfully carried or lawfully owned firearms in this state during a declared state of emergency shall be charged with a class A felony."

In the chaos following Hurricane Katrina, various government agencies - including Federal Marshalls - made systematic attempts to sweep New Orleans of guns - even if that meant entering the homes of law abiding gun owners. The move did not cause widespread outrage in most states. But New Hampshire residents reacted by burning a FEMA flag in front of a local Federal building. They also circulated a petition pledging resistance if such a move were ever attempted in the "Live Free or Die" state....a place where guns are part of the culture and gun laws are the second-loosest in the nation.

Activists say whether it passes or not, this "Gun Protection Bill" is one more small thing they can do to try and protect themselves from disarmament at the hands of any government, during a time when they believe they will need their weapons most.

26 posted on 04/17/2006 9:30:11 AM PDT by Irontank (Let them revere nothing but religion, morality and liberty -- John Adams)
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To: af_vet_rr

The American people need to understand that the United States is under attack!

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And then, after that, they'll use them to read our minds! Oh, no!


30 posted on 04/17/2006 9:50:57 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Whatever gets proposed (technically) for a Homefolks Identification Card, I'll bet that I can get dozens of these cards for under $1000 each about 2 weeks before the system goes into effect. The price will drop as the forgers get better.


74 posted on 04/18/2006 7:59:57 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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