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Has Mahony created a monster that he has lost control of or is Mahony trying to pull an Bill Clinton and have it both ways by distancing himself from the May Day Communist Group?
1 posted on 04/17/2006 7:04:49 AM PDT by petkus
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To: petkus

Somebody needs to loose some control!


2 posted on 04/17/2006 7:06:31 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: petkus
Just remember...

May Day is Commie Day!


3 posted on 04/17/2006 7:11:17 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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Catholics should not encourage people to break laws that are not unjust (U.S. Immigration Laws are not immoral). This is what some Catholics are doing by encouraging protests and waving a carrot on a stick to those on the other side of the border.
4 posted on 04/17/2006 7:13:19 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: petkus

I don't think Mahoney ever had any control,simply another "usefull idiot"for the left.


5 posted on 04/17/2006 7:15:26 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: petkus

Nice try but to LATE! They are all exposed for what they really are! Communist, socialist, marxist.

And BTW do not refer to the illegal aliens as "Immigrants" they are not!


6 posted on 04/17/2006 7:17:01 AM PDT by stopem (America is not a Cash Cow!)
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I used to live in LA.

Mahoney was a jerk then, he's a jerk now. He's always on the wrong side of every issue.


7 posted on 04/17/2006 7:19:13 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: petkus

As Mahony sows, so shall he reap. Hopefully the folks in LA will show this bafoon how much they repsect his stupidity in urging law breaking by not adding anything to the colelction basket on April 30th.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 7:21:23 AM PDT by pikachu (For every action there is an equal and opposite government program - Fig Newtons 1st Law)
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To: petkus

Maybe Phony Mahony is getting a lot of 2241 notes in the collection basket as opposed to greenbacks. I know the Archdiocese is getting a lot of negative email about his thumbing his nose at the law.


10 posted on 04/17/2006 7:23:43 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: petkus

It would be nice to see a guest editorial talk about the backlash to Roger McPhony when MayDay blows up on him, abd just to stir the pot. Any good bloggers out there?


11 posted on 04/17/2006 7:24:42 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (My Pug is On Her War Footing)
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To: petkus

Sounds to me like he's covering his behind if things go badly wrong, which I hope they do.


15 posted on 04/17/2006 7:36:24 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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I suggest catholics do the same thing I am doing when I get a request for donation. I am politely writing back and suggesting they request the donation from their illegal immigration contingent since all my money is going to support tax funded programs paying illegals.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 7:37:36 AM PDT by McGavin999 (The US media is afflicted with Attention Deficit Disorder)
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We should have a boycott Illegal Alien MONTH, and boycott all businesses that we know of that hire these people.

What's more, go TELL them that's why you won't be doing business with them.

If congress won't do it, maybe we can start something on our own.


18 posted on 04/17/2006 8:06:25 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (An honest man can feel no pleasure in the exercise of power over his fellow citizens.)
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To: petkus

Is Martin Luther laughing from his grave or crying?


20 posted on 04/17/2006 8:13:39 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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Aiding and abetting CRIMINALS make a person a CRIMINAL!
21 posted on 04/17/2006 8:14:28 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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Maybe his collection box Easter Donations fell short this year?

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22 posted on 04/17/2006 8:16:40 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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MEXICAN AND AMERICAN BISHOPS HAVE BEEN QUITE SPOKEN FAVORING THE ILLEGAL INMIGRATION TO THE EE.UU., BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW, THEY NEVER CONDEMNED THE MEXICAN SEVERE IMMIGRATION LAWS, MUCH LESS THEY NEVER DARED TO CHALLENGE THE MEXICAN CATHOLICS TO VIOLATE MEXICAN IMMIGRATION LAWS.

Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home

By J. Michael Waller



Mexico has a radical idea for a rational immigration policy that most Americans would love. However, Mexican officials haven’t been sharing that idea with us as they press for our Congress to adopt the McCain-Kennedy immigration reform bill.



That’s too bad, because Mexico, which annually deports more illegal aliens than the United States does, has much to teach us about how it handles the immigration issue.



Under Mexican law, it is a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.



At a time when the Supreme Court and many politicians seek to bring American law in line with foreign legal norms, it’s noteworthy that nobody has argued that the US look at how Mexico deals with immigration and what it might teach us about how best to solve our illegal immigration problem. Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:



• in the country legally;

• have the means to sustain themselves economically;

• not destined to be burdens on society;

• of economic and social benefit to society;

• of good character and have no criminal records; and

• contributors to the general well-being of the nation.



The law also ensures that:

• immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;

• foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;

• foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;

• foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;

• foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;

• those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.



Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens – and the denial of many fundamental rights to noncitizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.



It is an interesting law – and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great

southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.



If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.



Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 2



We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution.[1] Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.



Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:



• Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of

contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)



• Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for

the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for

their dependents. (Article 34)



• Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the

equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed

detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like

good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and

when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)



• The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of

foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)



Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:



• Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration

authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article

73)



• A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who

comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity.

(Articles 85 and 86)



• A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article

87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).



Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be



imprisoned:

• Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article

116)



• Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or

different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment.

(Article 116)



Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:



• Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)



• Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country

without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)



Mexico’s Immigration Law: Let’s Try it Here at Home 3



• Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico – such as working with out a permit – can also be imprisoned.



Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,



• “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five

thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country

illegally.” (Article 123)



• Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico

instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)



• Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be

deported. (Article 126)



Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:



• A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the

foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)



• Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico

will be fined. (Article 132)



All of the above runs contrary to what Mexican leaders are demanding of the United States. The stark contrast between Mexico’s immigration practices versus its American immigration preachings is telling. It gives a clear picture of the Mexican government’s agenda: to have a one-way immigration relationship with the United States.



Let’s call Mexico’s bluff on its unwarranted interference in U.S. immigration policy.



Let’s propose, just to make a point, that the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) member nations standardize their immigration laws by using Mexico’s own law as a model.



[1] “Mexico’s Glass House,” Center for Security Policy Occasional Paper, April 3, 2006.


24 posted on 04/17/2006 8:43:59 AM PDT by Dqban22
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Mahony, the Bill Clinton of the American Catholic church.


26 posted on 04/17/2006 10:00:30 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Illegals - taking the rights Americans don't have - tell them No Tu Puede)
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Are there laws against encouraging foreign citizens to march in the streets, or do those only apply if they're encouraged to riot or similar? If riots occur as the result of these protests, would those who encouraged marches be liable in some way, perhaps in a civil suit brought by businesses affected?


27 posted on 04/17/2006 11:05:19 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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I can see difficulties about workers not going to work, but who suffers if college students don't go to school?


31 posted on 04/23/2006 8:45:50 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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ping


33 posted on 04/24/2006 5:53:59 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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