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Sept 11 film 'too close' for Kiwi victim's family
Sunday Star * Times (New Zealand) ^ | 16 April 2006 | TONY WALL

Posted on 04/16/2006 5:31:56 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter

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To: Calpernia

This is how information is presented in a free enterprise system. I guess we could have publicly funded news with free distribution, but do you think the World really needs to hear NPR's take on 9/11?

People are going to talk about that big hole in Downtown Manhattan, and what it means and what went on. This is only natural. Moore's film came out three years ago, to great critical acclaim, and people are complaining about an accurate portrayal now? You get the feeling that only anti-American sentiments are permissable with respect to 9/11.

If you ask me, folks on the left are just upset that this movie will establish the truth of what happened in people's minds before Oliver Stone can come out with his hatchet job next year.


21 posted on 04/16/2006 5:57:13 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: Javelina



Art...? Murdered citizens as art? I think I'm gonna hurl.


22 posted on 04/16/2006 5:57:52 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: DieHard the Hunter

'proper time for this movie' = once a Democrat is in the Whitehouse


23 posted on 04/16/2006 5:58:12 PM PDT by SoCal_Republican
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To: SouthernFreebird

> I don't like the idea of hollywood making money off this film.

I would be most interested to learn what Hollywood intends to do with its profits from this movie.

I'd like to see a large slice of the gross takings (now *there's* an appropriate term!) go to a 9-11 charity.

When should I stop holding my breath, d'ya think? This is why I am of two minds on the subject.


24 posted on 04/16/2006 5:58:15 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

I can't help but think about the children of the victims. I had my cousin in my lap for hours during one of the memorials trying to explain how daddy fit in the little box. I fielded some of the most gut wrenching, painful questions that will forever haunt my sleep.

The kids will want to see these movies. It will probably turn into an obsessive fixation for many.

How will this affect them?

I'm all for history being made into films. But not while we are still in the war.


25 posted on 04/16/2006 5:59:41 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SouthernFreebird

It's either a "friggin popcorn eating movie" or you sit back and wait for Katie Couric to tell you what really happened once she takes over at CBS Nightly News.

Frankly, I prefer to have a forum that is not controlled by the MSM from time to time.


26 posted on 04/16/2006 6:00:28 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: SouthernFreebird

How seriously do people take TV movies?

I think this is going to be a good portrayal of some great heroes. I intend to see it myself.


27 posted on 04/16/2006 6:00:56 PM PDT by gun_supporter
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To: Javelina
Why should it have to be about "informing" people? Why can't it just be art? Or, remembrance? I think it's good that this is being released. I don't see any reason why no one should profit from it.

Exactly. I am interested in the vision Greengrass is bringing to the screen (since I thought the Bourne Supremacy was a well crafted thriller).

Both the Left and thr Right need to learn a simple f***ing rule: If You Don't Like It, Shut Up And Don't Watch It.

28 posted on 04/16/2006 6:02:24 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: bondjamesbond

First of all, there are two different movies you are merging into one discussion.

Second of all, you have twisted various statements and added your own commentary to them.

You seem to be happy posting to yourself since you made your own conversation.


29 posted on 04/16/2006 6:02:32 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Zeroisanumber

> I would rather crawl across a desert of salted glass than see this movie.

I understand and respect your viewpoint.

We'd probably all crawl across a desert of salted glass if doing so would wind the clock back to September 10. Or put the crew of Flight 93 in the cockpit in time to land the plane safely.

Alas this won't and can't happen. The best we can do is Remember. Never Forget and Never Forgive.

For some, this movie may help achieve this end.


30 posted on 04/16/2006 6:03:01 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: bondjamesbond


I don't need a movie or Couric to tell me about 9-11. I was here, I saw it, I felt it, that day is etched in my very soul. None of us should need it to be reduced to a movie.


31 posted on 04/16/2006 6:03:58 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: bondjamesbond


>>>Frankly, I prefer to have a forum that is not controlled by the MSM from time to time.

They are owned by the SAME people.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1320747/posts
George Soros, Media Connections - Bump List


32 posted on 04/16/2006 6:05:01 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Wormwood

>>>Both the Left and thr Right need to learn a simple f***ing rule: If You Don't Like It, Shut Up And Don't Watch It.

I'll be sure to pass your words on to the children that lost their parents that day.


33 posted on 04/16/2006 6:06:07 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

First of all, this movie does not exist in a vacuum. Moore's film has been out three years. Stone's film is coming next year. This issue has been dealt with and will be dealt with in film.

Second of all, my comments are my own. I don't see how I am twisting yours to say that movies for profit are a letigimate way of sharing information in a free enterprise system.

I am happy to discuss matters with you, but that does not mean I must agree with you.


34 posted on 04/16/2006 6:06:15 PM PDT by bondjamesbond (RICE 2008)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

If people can't handle films about 9/11/01 almost 5 years later, they never would have made it through World War 2. Hollywood was pumping out war films like you wouldn't believe back then.


35 posted on 04/16/2006 6:07:02 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Calpernia
I'll be sure to pass your words on to the children that lost their parents that day.

Please do. They do not *own* such an historic event.

36 posted on 04/16/2006 6:08:00 PM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: SouthernFreebird

>>>I don't need a movie or Couric to tell me about 9-11. I was here, I saw it, I felt it, that day is etched in my very soul. None of us should need it to be reduced to a movie.

How about, the people that go see the ViaCom one HAVE to endure that smell that we lived with for months afterward. They want to know about 9/11, then they have to have the full experience.


37 posted on 04/16/2006 6:08:16 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SouthernFreebird

Wasn't commenting on the purpose.

Only that I saw the TV version. It was very well done.

It's not a small screen story though.


38 posted on 04/16/2006 6:08:43 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: bondjamesbond

Now you are speaking of three different films.


39 posted on 04/16/2006 6:09:14 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I would be most interested to learn what Hollywood intends to do with its profits from this movie.

Hollywood is very good at cooking the books. They can make most movies look like they were money losers. "Oh, we had planned to donate all of the profits to 9-11 causes but we didn't even break even on this. Sorry."

40 posted on 04/16/2006 6:09:25 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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