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Rush to judgment at Duke
orlandosentinel ^ | April 16, 2006 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 04/16/2006 12:41:53 PM PDT by ncountylee

'We don't know all the facts about the alleged Duke lacrosse rape, but . . ."

That's more or less how most commentators have introduced their remarks on the case that has reduced the Durham, N.C., community to prayers, tears and recriminations.

Let me interpret the code for you: Men are bad.

Even though we don't know what happened, we're not going to let the absence of facts interfere with our indictment of a team, a coach, a school, but more to the point -- of boys.

About the only thing to emerge with any clarity since a black exotic dancer claimed that three white lacrosse players raped her last month is our willingness to believe the worst about males.

That belief is all the more rewarding if the males happen to be white, as well as athletes, and especially if they're perceived to be privileged. If there's one thing we can't bear in this country, it's spoiled white boys who think the world owes them a good time.

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While we wait to hear what the grand jury decides, we might turn our harsh judgment inward and recognize that the anti-male groupthink that permitted a presumption of guilt in Durham is little different than the lynch-mob mentality that once channeled rage against blacks.

Obviously, no woman deserves to be raped for any reason, under any circumstances. But nor do men deserve to be presumed guilty just because they're men.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; dukeu; kathleenparker
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To: Restorer

Let's turn on our logic hats.

The DA takes DNA samples, and says he will compare with the "victim".

Defense says - before results are public - "You will not get any evidence on our boys, and we will make results public as soon as available."

ONLY an innocent person makes this statement. A guilty/worried person starts talking about "It was consentual - we paid her $X, now she wants to cal lit rape" etc - a very believable defense given her profession.

DNA results come out? Exactly as defense predicted. Zero evidence. The boys are innocent - they are acting like they are innocent, and there is no evidence to contradict them.

This whole story is a sad racist farce.


141 posted on 04/16/2006 5:36:27 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: marajade

Do you want to rethink this statement?

All REFUTATIONS have been made by the defense. Plenty of nonsense has been spewed by the DA and the local media.

The problem the DA has is HE HAS NO EVIDENCE.

If he has some that you are aware of - please enlighten us. He doesn't even have enough for an arest.


142 posted on 04/16/2006 5:43:02 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: jimbo123

He is white, chasing the black vote in a split community.


143 posted on 04/16/2006 5:44:15 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: marajade

Maybe when they put their pictures in the Sunday paper - including guys who weren't even at the party. They also took DNA from guys who were not present.


144 posted on 04/16/2006 5:46:00 PM PDT by Mr. Rational
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; SouthernFreebird

Bingo.

Using Occam's Razor, that's certainly the most likely explanation for the facts we have to work with.

The fact that the accuser claimed there was a "struggle" with the "rapists", and left behind a couple fake nails, yet there was no player DNA found on them, is extremely telling.


145 posted on 04/16/2006 5:52:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Mr. Rational

You know what I find truly amazing is that us juries actually have been able to convict people of crimes like that of rape before we even knew how to test for DNA.


146 posted on 04/16/2006 5:59:04 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: ncountylee

It's Tawana Brawley all over again! Any time Jesse Jackson sticks his dirty nose into anything you know what the deal is!


147 posted on 04/16/2006 6:04:22 PM PDT by pallmallman (ww2.)
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To: hershey
Amazingly, these drunken lacrosse-playing louts managed to rape this young woman and leave no trace of DNA! In between fending off attackers, she painted her nails and, dead drunk, fell down the steps, (clothing mysteriously undisturbed). The likely explanation for belated claims of rape is to shift the blame...if cops determined she was under the influence of drugs, certainly drunk...she feared she'd lose her children and perhaps any welfare type payments, end up in jail, be kicked out of school, whatever. So be the victim. Voila. Suddenly life is good and Jesse Jackson says he'll pay her school bills.

I think your story is the most likely scenario.

Then again, consider: these are guys intelligent enough to get into college without an affirmative-action boost ( I doubt lacross gives a huge athletic scholarship). How drunk would they have to be to come into contact with somebody like that without a durable latex barrier protecting them (and thus no DNA)?

148 posted on 04/16/2006 6:06:12 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: Jezebelle
Fox News reporting that Nifong will NOT ALLOW THE PLAYERS TO TURN THEMSELVES IN VOLUNTARILY IF/WHEN THE INDICTMENTS COME DOWN!

Meaning he desperately wants the photo-op of him leading handcuffed students in a perp-walk

149 posted on 04/16/2006 6:15:06 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
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To: marajade

Yeah, and just take a spin on the internet to learn how many have been exonerated by DNA after years and years in jail based on "say-so". The Use of DNA is also closing cases. The "her say-so" has yielded MANY instances of wrongful imprisonment.


150 posted on 04/16/2006 6:23:16 PM PDT by Alia
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To: airborne
It's a bunch of rich, white athletes.

What the heck does THAT mean?

151 posted on 04/16/2006 6:25:18 PM PDT by Edit35
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To: Alia

That's fine. If DNA can clear someone from being wrongly imprisoned then I'm all for it.


152 posted on 04/16/2006 6:25:41 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
That's what the jury system is to decide.

Too bad, that instead of waiting for a jury, the DA decided to jump on it in public big time and try it in the court of public opinion before charges were even filed.

153 posted on 04/16/2006 6:27:14 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Why do you say that? Most of the crap about the case is what is coming from all of the hired defense attys.


154 posted on 04/16/2006 6:28:18 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: ncountylee; All

This innocent to proven guilty concept is so outdated...


155 posted on 04/16/2006 6:28:57 PM PDT by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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To: marajade

You posted your assertion that what he said was Fact: That DNA doesn't prove anything. I figured you knew something.


156 posted on 04/16/2006 6:32:51 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Restorer

If we cat like a whore, you c an expect to be treated like a whore. To which we must add, even a whore does not deserve to be raped.


157 posted on 04/16/2006 6:36:03 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
Interesting theory.

158 posted on 04/16/2006 6:38:08 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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To: MojoWire

Sarcasm. Thought it was obvious.


159 posted on 04/16/2006 6:47:50 PM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: Alia

Her medical tests showed that she did not have sexual intercourse prior to arriving at the hospital and having a rape kit done. No sex, no rape.

Remember, the cop who found her at the Kroger parking lot said she was drunk and passed out. He was going to place her under arrest until she said she was going to the hospital. Then she arrived with her boyfriend. Nothing to the cop, security guard or to her co-danger about rape.

As for the stats, I'm still trying to find someone, so far all I've come up is probability stats on finding biological evidence based on time from sexual assault until medical attention.


160 posted on 04/16/2006 6:52:25 PM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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