George Allen to Senate: Secure the Borders

NewsMax ^ | 4/16/06 | NewsMax

[Gelato]

But I'm always suspicious of politicians who are 'late to the game' and then somehow think they should lead the parade.

Reminds me of Margaret Thatcher's story of the French politician who said:

"There go my people. I must find out where they are going so I can lead them."

[Galactic Overlord-In-Chief]

J.D. Hayworth was also not very hawkish on the border at first, and then he changed his tune once he got a close-up look at the situation.

[EternalVigilance]

There once was a 'virtual' fence
They built it for only five cents
A political scam
This invisible dam
If you believe in it you're really dense

[EternalVigilance]

J.D. Hayworth was also not very hawkish on the border at first, and then he changed his tune once he got a close-up look at the situation.

JD is leading on this issue.

George Allen is following public opinion.

We need a real principled leader in the White House in '09.

[Gelato]

Good one!

[EternalVigilance]

Ronnie's record on illegal immigration was none too spectacular. In the post-9/11 era, benign neglect is not OK.

Yep.

But, in Dutch's defense, he had a Dem Congress that wasn't afraid to lie.

The current leadership not only has a GOP Congress, they have public opinion on the side of enforcement.

But they won't act, because notwithstanding their rhetoric, they're on the wrong side.

George Allen's political gurus are Bush political people. Everyone better get their brain around that.

And Ed Gillespie, who runs Allen's money operation, is the leader of the OBL.

[stopem]

Okay I am getting to like Senator Allen more and more.

[Gelato]

Ask George Allen what he means by "border security."

ALLEN: The best way to do it, to securing the border then, what you can actually get done now is with more personnel, is with better use of technologies. You can call it a virtual fence, but using unmanned aerial vehicles that also have sensors that at night you can sense the heat from human beings and the detention centers. Because once you catch those [people] coming in here illegally it does no good just to make it a catch-and-release system. Of course they don’t show up. That is clearly not the one. But doing that alone is not going to solve the problem.

And:

ALLEN: If you get, well, first you have to secure your borders. That’s No. 1. But securing the borders in itself is not going to solve the whole problem. What we need to do is devise a good guest-worker program.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?print=yes&id=10880

To George Allen, border security means employing unmanned aerial vechicles: a virtual fence.

He says an actual fence, while doable, isn't "worthy of consideration."

Yet he considers a guest worker program a necessity. Go figure.

[digerati]

As Tancredo says....follow the money. First Data Corp's International Western Union is the source for half of First Data Corps's revenue thanks to money transfers by illegals. First Data Corp is heavily involved in helping the illegals:

http://www.visalaw.com/04jul2/15jul204.html

According to Charlie Fote, chief executive of First Data, the company has stepped into the forum of shaping public policy because the voices of a large portion of their client base (immigrants) were not being heard. Other steps the company has taken are:

• Forming a political action committee that is funding pro-immigration candidates.

• First Data Empowerment Fund - $10 million available to help immigrant communities as well as to promote "enlightened" immigration discussions.

• Fote personally hosting a series of immigration reform meetings across the country.

• Assisting Latino entrepreneurs and teaching families abroad how to leverage funds received from family members in the U.S.

Guess which one of two Republican Senators has received political contributions from First Data Corp...George Allen.

http://www.fecwatch.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00394494&Cycle=2006

[BW2221]

You are forgetting that Goldwater, whom I supported tirelessly as a college student in 1964, was far less conservative in his later years (when Peggy died and he came under the influence of his second wife).

[publius123]

For all posters:

Please add these words to the end of any immigrant claim that you hear; ..."at the prevailing wage rate."

To any claim from business that they cannot find enough workers you might add this; "...at the prevailing wage rate."

Besides a fence and border security, our government's most absolute power is that of taxation.

This whole issue could end if the federal government were willing to impose a tax on remittances leaving this country headed for Mexico.

Understand that no one really knows at what time and place illegal immigration will end for this country. Some economists are saying that as soon as Mexican wages are at 35% of US wages the flow will slow down markedly.

We can accelrate that slow down with the imposition of a tax and the enforcement of the present immigration code.

All of the laws we need are already on the books. We need only enforce them.

[publius123]

You are absolutely correct.

May I add one thing to your list: Tax all remittances to Mexico.

BTW, some economists are saying that when Mexican wages approach 35% of US wages the flow will slow down.

We can accelerate that happening by the imposition of the tax and by removing incentives.

[EternalVigilance]

As Tancredo says....follow the money.

Great post.

Another interesting money trail is the one left by George Allen when he headed up the National Republican Senatorial Campaign Committee.

While we all tend to blame George W. Bush and Rick Santorum for Specter retaining his seat against Pat Toomey, the fact is, it was George Allen who controlled the money.

The first person in line for blame as to why Arlen Specter isn't gone should be Senator George Allen!

[buck61]

Frisk, will give George Allen the death nail ASAP.
I have argued for a long time Allen would be a great choice.
As for having more grit, that will come later if his name is thrown into the contenders list. He already has a lot of issues on his side, anti- abortion, inti-homosexual, controlled spending on the federal level and so on.

[buck61]

This should be the head line of every news paper in America, but we know that isn't going to happen.
I agree with the statement and, the majority in America will agree also, it's just we can't get through to the Congress Of The United States how the illegal situation can be turned around, if it isn't too late.

[Gelato]

You are forgetting that Goldwater, whom I supported tirelessly as a college student in 1964, was far less conservative in his later years (when Peggy died and he came under the influence of his second wife).

I'm well aware.

RobbyS raised Goldwater's name in the context of George Allen, as though it excused Allen's poor speaking ability and presence.

Yet Goldwater's presidential run had a lasting effect on the conservative cause. The ideas he espoused were key to influencing folks like Reagan.

Allen's political endeavors will lay on the ash heap next to Bob Dole's. It's a waste of time to consider Allen for the nomination.

[buck61]

Three cheers for George Allen, make that four cheers.

[EternalVigilance]

He already has a lot of issues on his side, anti- abortion...

Uhmmm...his abortion position is very weak. He thinks first-trimester babes in the womb are disposable.

...inti-homosexual...

His office is known as one of the most 'gay-friendly' in Washington.

...controlled spending on the federal level...

Prove it.

[WalterSkinner]

..the Senator is starting to make Presidential sounds...

[Gelato]

anti- abortion...

George Allen has been called "moderately pro-choice" for his support of abortions in the earliest stages.

Allen believes the right to life does not begin until after detectable brainwaves and a heartbeat. Although he has voted carefully as a Senator, he does not qualify as pro-life.