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The Pagan Origin of Easter
Last Trumpet Ministries ^ | unknown | David J. Meyer

Posted on 04/16/2006 9:07:24 AM PDT by The Lumster

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To: Frank Sheed

This is the Day the Lord has made-
Let us Rejoice and be Glad

41 posted on 04/16/2006 10:32:29 AM PDT by mikrofon (Alleluia)
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To: The Lumster

Keep on telling the truth, brother. You sow the seed and God will give the increase.


42 posted on 04/16/2006 10:41:33 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: Cicero

Apparently, Ishtar was a pretty hot number...


43 posted on 04/16/2006 10:42:07 AM PDT by Fintan (Somebody has to post stupid & inane comments. May as well be me...)
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To: The_Reader_David

'extra Biblical' facts:>>>

Facts are such only if they are proven, you are talking faith not facts. That being said,us in the Christian West have the ability to prove for ourselves the facts just as you in the East can, and unfortunately there is no written historical piece from pre-Nicean time to say that Mary Magdalene did as the eastern orthodoxy churchs claim she did, there is however tons of historical evidence of the origins of easter eggs through out much of pre-Christian pagan Europe falling in the time period that much of modern Christianity celebrates Easter.

I suppose next I am going to hear that Jesus had a nice ham-steak with a side of eggs at the last supper to justify eating ham on Easter.


44 posted on 04/16/2006 10:43:36 AM PDT by aft_lizard (....)
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To: The Lumster

Happy Easter!

45 posted on 04/16/2006 10:44:56 AM PDT by airborne (Satan's greatest trick was convincing people he doesn't exist.)
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To: The_Reader_David

James and Jesus had the same mother. Mary had a bunch of kids.

"Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this man all these things?" - Matthew 13:55

Mary would not have to have continued a virgin in order to have Jesus by virgin birth.


46 posted on 04/16/2006 10:47:17 AM PDT by RoadTest (The wicked love darkness; but God's people love the Light!)
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To: cripplecreek

Yikes! Is that the bunny that attacked Carter?


47 posted on 04/16/2006 10:51:34 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: sgtbono2002
"For those with faith, no explanation is necessary. For those without, no explanation is possible."
–Thomas Aquinas
48 posted on 04/16/2006 10:54:13 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Freedom isn't free, but the men and women of the military will pay most of your share)
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To: The Lumster
"The holiday often involves...a feast which includes an 'Easter Ham'

"Nimrod, who was the grandson of...Ham"

At this point, my mind began to wander, and by the time I got to the part where somebody married his mother and a giant egg hit the earth they had completely lost me.
49 posted on 04/16/2006 11:16:22 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Spirit of Flight 93 is the Spirit of America.)
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To: TheConservator
The word Easter comes from the name of an Anglo Saxon fertility goddess.

folks, we have a winner ! - the correct answer wins you exclusion from this nonsensical thread

Easter

Its my understanding the colored eggs predate even the Ostara / Eastre Hare in pagan worship

- was the incorporation of the days in Christian worship the seeds of an early seeker movement LOL

Blessed Resurrection Sunday

50 posted on 04/16/2006 11:27:06 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (God is love, Love endures forever, Love God, Love your neighbor,)
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To: COBOL2Java

"Yikes! Is that the bunny that attacked Carter?"

Might be the "Li-al bunny" from Monte Python?


51 posted on 04/16/2006 11:27:39 AM PDT by Gum Shoe
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To: aft_lizard
The word Easter appears once in the King James version of the Bible.Herod has put Peter in prison, "intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people" (Acts 12:4). Yet in the original Greek text the word is not Easter, but Pesach, that is Passover. So why was the name changed? Please read on, and remember Exodus 34:14; For you shall worship no other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous G-d.

I believe the King James writers are correct. This passover was apparently a pagan feast and was the proper rendering.

If you notice the context of Acts 12:4, you'll notice in verse 3 that "then were the days of UNLEAVENED BREAD." If you remember, the date of "UNLEAVENED BREAD" as specified in Leviticus 23:6, was the 15th day of the first month. In Leviticus 23:5, the date for the "PASSOVER" was the 14th day of the first month. In Act 12:4 we read the words "intending after Easter (or Passover) to bring him forth to the people. If it was already the "DAYS OF UNLEAVENED BREAD" or the 15th of the month, how could the 14th come after the 15th? This would be the case if this were the normal "Passover."

52 posted on 04/16/2006 11:48:43 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Cicero

The pagans can't even stop the propaganda on Easter Sunday.


53 posted on 04/16/2006 11:57:46 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: The Lumster
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!

ROTFLMAO! This is hilarious! Haven't had such a good laugh in weeks. This guy's really funny!

54 posted on 04/16/2006 12:02:52 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: dighton

Good grief, not the PEEPS! Those awful rubber bunnies and chicks, what dentist created those things in the first place anyway? It was bad enough when they were simply neon pink and yellow, but of late, they branched into turquoise and purple! YIKES!!!!!!!


55 posted on 04/16/2006 12:10:13 PM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: The Lumster
http://www.lasttrumpetministries.org/docs/aboutdjm.html says that:

David J. Meyer was born in Clintonville, Wisconsin. He was born into a family where superstition and occultism were everywhere. His paternal grandmother and great grandmother were both practicing witches in the old wiccan tradition.

When David was 13 years old he began his involvement with astrology, numerology and palm reading. This continued until age 19 and he became well-known in northern Wisconsin as a psychic astrologer. Many mysterious events made him popular with the people in that area.

At age 19 a friend coaxed him to attend a small church where miracles and healing were said to happen. Being drawn first of all by curiosity, David attended a Sunday evening service where the Holy Ghost began to work conviction in his heart. At the end of the service he went up to the front and fell to his knees and repented before the Lord. The following week he was baptized in the name of the Lord. One week later, he was baptized with the Holy Ghost. It was an experience reminiscent of Saul of Tarsus on the Damascus road.

After deliverance from many devils that came out from him, he instantly began to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the streets. While continuing his ministry, David also assisted various pastors and completed his Associate of Arts degree at Fox Valley Technical Institute. He also completed 10 years of service with the University of Wisconsin system as a master locksmith in charge of physical security. During that time he won many awards and certificates including the highest award presented by the Governor of Wisconsin. David also did computer programming and security systems designing and analysis.

David J. Meyer is now the pastor of Truth Tabernacle, a totally independent Bible-believing Christian church which he founded in 1974, located in Beaver Dam, Wisconsin. He is also the editor and publisher of the Last Trumpet Newsletter, which began publication in 1981 and currently has over 10,000 readers. Last Trumpet Ministries International also distributes over 25,000 tapes per year. Seminars are held throughout the United States and overseas as well. Pastor Meyer specializes in deliverance ministry and exposes the dangers of the occult and secret societies. He has traveled extensively from coast-to-coast doing research and spiritual warfare.

Sounds to me like the good pastor is not suffering from an excess of humility either. And anyone who has the temerity to spend 10 years at the University of Wisconsin and then brag about it, well, there's probably something else wrong with them too. And not even a BS to show for it.

I've run across a few such types who figure that not only they can toss out nearly 2000 years of dedicated theologians' work, thought and prayer, but there's money to be made and fame to be had. And folks posting their heresies on conservative forums for them.

56 posted on 04/16/2006 1:10:01 PM PDT by MarkBsnr (When you believe in nothing, then everything is acceptable.)
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To: The Lumster

Did the neo-pagans plagiarize the attempted research of these fundie-types, or was it the other way around?


57 posted on 04/16/2006 2:03:33 PM PDT by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: The Lumster
ON THE KEEPING OF EASTER.

From the Letter of the Emperor to all those not present at the Council.
(Found in Eusebius, Vita Const., Lib. iii., 18-20.)

When the question relative to the sacred festival of Easter arose, it was
universally thought that it would be convenient that all should keep the
feast on one day; for what could be more beautiful and more desirable,
than to see this festival, through which we receive the hope of
immortality, celebrated by all with one accord, and in the same
manner? It was declared to be particularly unworthy for this, the
holiest of all festivals, to follow the custom [the calculation] of the
Jews, who had soiled their hands with the most fearful of crimes, and
whose minds were blinded. In rejecting their custom,(1) we may
transmit to our descendants the legitimate mode of celebrating Easter,
which we have observed from the time of the Saviour's Passion to the
present day[according to the day of the week].
We ought not,
therefore, to have anything in common with the Jews, for the Saviour
has shown us another way; our worship follows a more legitimate and
more convenient course(the order of the days of the week); and
consequently, in unanimously adopting this mode, we desire, dearest
brethren, to separate ourselves from the detestable company of the
Jews, for it is truly shameful for us to hear them boast that without
their direction we could not keep this feast. How can they be in the
right, they who, after the death of the Saviour, have no longer been led
by reason but by wild violence, as their delusion may urge them? They
do not possess the truth in this Easter question; for, in their blindness
and repugnance to all improvements, they frequently celebrate two
passovers in the same year. We could not imitate those who are openly
in error. How, then, could we follow these Jews, who are most
certainly blinded by error? for to celebrate the passover twice in one
year is totally inadmissible. But even if this were not so, it would still
be your duty not to tarnish your soul by communications with such
wicked people[the Jews]. Besides, consider well, that in such an
important matter, and on a subject of such great solemnity, there ought
not to be any division. Our Saviour has left us only one festal day of
our redemption, that is to say, of his holy passion, and he desired[to
establish] only one Catholic Church. Think, then, how unseemly it is,
that on the same day some should be fasting whilst others are seated
at a banquet; and that after Easter, some should be rejoicing at feasts,
whilst others are still observing a strict fast. For this reason, a Divine
Providence wills that this custom should be rectified and regulated in a
uniform way; and everyone, I hope, will agree upon this point. As, on
the one hand, it is our duty not to have anything in common with the
murderers of our Lord; and as, on the other, the custom now followed
by the Churches of the West, of the South, and of
the North, and by some of those of the East, is the most acceptable, it
has appeared good to all; and I have been guarantee for your consent,
that you would accept it with joy, as it is followed at Rome, in Africa,
in all Italy, Egypt, Spain, Gaul, Britain, Libya, in all Achaia, and in the
dioceses of Asia, of Pontus, and Cilicia. You should consider not only
that the number of churches in these provinces make a majority, but
also that it is right to demand what our reason approves, and that we
should have nothing in common with the Jews. To sum up in few
words: By the unanimous judgment of all, it has been decided that the
most holy festival of Easter should be everywhere celebrated on one
and the same day, and it is not seemly that in so holy a thing there
should be any division. As this is the state of the case, accept joyfully
the divine favour, and this truly divine command;
for all which takes
place in assemblies of the bishops ought to be regarded as proceeding
from the will of God. Make known to your brethren what has been
decreed, keep this most holy day according to the prescribed mode; we
can thus celebrate this holy Easter day at the same time, if it is granted
me, as I desire, to unite myself with you; we can rejoice together,
seeing that the divine power has made use of our instrumentality for
destroying the evil designs of the devil
, and thus causing faith, peace,
and unity to flourish amongst us. May God graciously protect you, my
beloved brethren.

from DOCUMENTS FROM THE FIRST COUNCIL OF NICEA [THE FIRST ECUMENICAL COUNCIL] A.D. 325

This is the Decree from the first Pontiff of the Roman church to all the world.

Emperor Constantine, Emperor of the Roman Empire

He had issued an Edict making Sunday the day of rest

In 321 CE, while a Pagan sun-worshiper, the Emperor Constantine
declared that Sunday was to be a day of rest throughout the Roman Empire:

"On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest,
and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture
may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day
is not suitable for gain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment
for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost."
Council of Laodicea circa 364 CE ordered that religious observances were
to be conducted on Sunday, not Saturday. Sunday became the new Sabbath.

They ruled: "Christians shall not Judaize and be idle on Saturday, but shall work on that day."

b'shem Y'shua
58 posted on 04/16/2006 2:51:24 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings)
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To: The Lumster

The mixture of Pagan and Christian symbology is well-documented. It was the efforts of the Roman Catholic Church to secure their power. This has been known long before recent works of fiction caused such a stir.

Christians should not eschew their own faith just because many of its sacred symbols originate in pagan mythology.


59 posted on 04/16/2006 5:10:32 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: cripplecreek

60 posted on 04/16/2006 5:11:25 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (http://ntxsolutions.com)
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