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orget About Civil War In Iraq-One Is Coming To America
Constitution Party ^ | 04/11/2006 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/16/2006 8:40:59 AM PDT by lana turner

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To: Howlin

I hope you're having a good Easter! :)


101 posted on 04/16/2006 2:40:15 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: catholicfreeper

"That speaks volumes to me about the majority of people protesting."

It isn't the majority of people protesting that is the problem. One bomb thrower started World War I.
The Mexicans crossing the border have a large contingent of rateros - rat people. Thieves, grifters etc. All of whom feel entitled. All it will take is a small skirmish.


102 posted on 04/16/2006 3:45:27 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: Chgogal
Battle cry from now on.....Legal Power!

Oh, I LIKE that!

103 posted on 04/16/2006 3:48:45 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: lana turner
It is absolutely incredible that our government would tolerate people who are not even legal residents of our country to generate the kind of mass demonstrations and protests that we are witnessing on a daily basis! It is more than incredible; it is outrageous!

Sucks to be Chuck Baldwin knowing that the Latinos can get more people in the streets in any large American city than voted for the Con Party Presidential Candidate in 2004.

104 posted on 04/16/2006 3:50:19 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!!!)
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To: lana turner; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ..


Gettin' Fed Up Ping!

105 posted on 04/16/2006 7:03:34 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: HiJinx
Read my tag line!
106 posted on 04/16/2006 7:06:30 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Amen...


107 posted on 04/16/2006 7:10:29 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: buck61

If not a civil war, something major is happening, because of all the very vocal protests...

The ones caught with their pants down are our selected officials. I say that, because I didn't vote for Feinstein, or Boxer. The illegal aliens, and ignorant democrats did.


108 posted on 04/16/2006 7:22:03 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: lana turner
Many tried hard to start a civil war / race war / class war in the 1960s -- really hard.

Some were ready to start deadly riots (civil war?) to influence the outcome of the 2000 Florida elections.

I am reminded of David Frums Diary, NOV. 19, 2002: GORE SPEAKS, based upon an ABC interview. The words are by Karenna Gore.

She's talking about her conversation with her father, "We have to do what's best for the country, and it is not good for the country to have this kind of divisiveness. And he was on the phone, really calling off the dogs. There were people who wanted to fan the ... the flames of the racial issue and have real unrest. And he was on the phone asking them not to, because of what was best for the country not because of what was best for him politically. And that's really who he is." [end]

It does not have to be a "civil war" in the classic Blue-Gray sense. Anything that will help "bring it all down, man" will do for millions of leftist "Americans."

In the 1960s I knew that it could not happen but there are enough criminals among the millions and millions of ILLEGALS that -- it may not be civil war but it will be close enough to make the 1960s look tame. IMO.

109 posted on 04/16/2006 7:41:15 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Globalism: a Marxist revolution from the top down? The Third Way loves it.)
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To: lana turner; HiJinx; B4Ranch

<< .... half of all illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. came here since Bush became president in 2000 .... >>

During which same period the value [Purchasing Power] of the United States Dollars has been halved!

[So relax, salaries and wages (Except to deliberately put you into a higher tax bracket) and house "values" and gas prices didn't rise, the bastards just counterfeited and put into circulation, twice as much "legal tender"]

Only a governement can take something as intrinsically valuable


110 posted on 04/16/2006 8:50:40 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: Enterprise; SheLion; metesky

Re your #18 -

"...A civil war occurred in the 1860's. One side lost."

After 4 years, over 660,000 Americans killed outright and God knows how many more left cripple, maimed, diseased or insane for the rest of what life they might have had left... Much of the South in ruins and some still resenting the North for it over several generations to this day...

I don't think that either side could have really claimed to have entirely "won" anything.
One side just survived with a few more points - and remaining resources - than the other.

As for a repeat of that incredibly tragic piece of American History;
For one thing, we DON'T EVER want to go there again!

But at the current rate that our Freedom - such as we have left - is being systematically sold out from under us, options may be limited. Once the invading foreigners are able to outvote legitimate American Citizens, then our redress of grievances via the ballot box will have been stolen away, and a National death spiral into a repeat of the "Dark Ages" and a feudal, police-state tyranny will be inevitable.
Whether it's under the yoke of Communism or Islam, I don't suppose that it'll make much difference, really.

When we lose that ballot box, if History is any indicator, then the last resort left to Free Men who refuse the tyrant's chains, is the cartridge box.

But I just don't see that happening any time soon.

Interloping invaders are intimidating us on our own streets - and when they push, we don't push back to speak of, do we? Well; a few token displays here and there - like the couple of brave young men who showed up at the Portland ME immigrant rally to counter-protest, and one promptly got his head laid open for his trouble - but not enough to really matter much, it seems.

For the most part, we just compliantly crumble and hide, griping to each other in the shadows somewhere.
We gesture and bloviate with great bravado, but the rowboat ain't gittin' rocked much, is it?

If we maintian this level of apathy for much longer, then...

America, as such, will die. It may already be dying.

Do we have any Americans remaining in America who have the courage to take a stand when confronted by the power of a corrupt and criminal State, as our Forefathers did at Concord, Lexington and Valley Forge?

Frankly, I don't think so.

We've seen a lot of tough talk and bravado thus far - but who, for example, is going to post a guard at your polling place in November to see to it that none but actual, legitimate CITIZENS vote, despite "official" edicts - enforced by established and well-armed Constabulary, no doubt - mandating foreigner's easy access to our polls?

The foreigners can steal our vote with impunity - but if any of us make a fuss about such a blatent crime being perpetrated in our presence, we can be assured of a quick trip in handcuffs to the local Hoosegow for "Interfering with an Election" or some such.

Who among us is willing to risk losing their home, their freedom, their life's savings and possessions, and possibly even their life by refusing to stand down and surrender when ordered to?

So yeah; I hear a lot of big dogs barking now - but when the illegals are lining up at our polls and the officials ask you what language you'd like your ballot written in (assuming that we even bother to show up to vote at all)...

Are we going to buck the rotten system somehow, or just skulk back home like good "Subjects" without uttering a mumblin' word to hide back under the porch?

Sad to say, I'm getting the impression that most Americans - myself very probably included - just ain't made of the same stuff as our Ancestors were - back in 1776 and 1861.

And our enemies - both foreign and domestic - can smell weakness and apathy miles away.


111 posted on 04/16/2006 8:53:45 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque (Club Freedom; Dues: Vigilance.)
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To: Brian Allen

Only a governement can take something as intrinsically valuable as paper, slap some ink on both sides of it and thus render it absolutely worthless.


112 posted on 04/16/2006 9:05:31 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: catholicfreeper
I was living with the increasing insanity, on what should be the Border long before most knew there was a problem. As out of control as it has become, there is no room for compromise.

Should you choose to classify me as a political heretic, for speaking the truth, so be it, threats of violence haven't detered me from spending as much time as possible on the Border, being called names won't deter me from speaking the truth.

113 posted on 04/16/2006 9:19:38 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: Uncle Jaque; HiJinx; B4Ranch

<< Do we have any Americans remaining in America who have the courage to take a stand when confronted by the power of a corrupt and criminal State, as our Forefathers did at Concord, Lexington and Valley Forge? >>

Absolutely, we do. And many of us and the odds notwithstanding are ready for the call.

But those Americans had only to face a few dead and decadent British and their every-bit-as-stinking mercenaries. While we are up against against our feral gummint's wilfully incited, encouraged and facilitated third-world-barbarian hordes of criminal alien invaders. And worse, against the illegal, unlawful and un-Constitutional police powers granted itself - largely thanks, speaking of our Civil War, to the inroads made upon our nation's Founding Law by the traitor Lincoln and by the traitor Roosevelt and by his "Democrat" successors - by said bloody feral gummint.

An altogether different breed of serpent than were the hapless limeys.

"Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?
Forbid it, Almighty God.
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"

-- Patrick Henry


114 posted on 04/16/2006 9:21:47 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: thorshammer

When was the last protest in America that LEOs were attacked and hospitalized by the protesters?


115 posted on 04/16/2006 9:23:13 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Uncle Jaque
Good post.

Even during the last presidential election we had foreign observers at the polls (probably UN) and nobody cared.

I never, in my wildest dreams, thought the New World Order would be ushered in by the Republicans.

116 posted on 04/16/2006 9:24:33 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: catholicfreeper

Have the Latinos been praying that the Gringos would surrender?


117 posted on 04/16/2006 9:24:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Are the radical elements that you are concerned about sleepers cells of Muslims?


118 posted on 04/16/2006 9:27:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: Brian Allen

Most men and nations die, lying down.


119 posted on 04/16/2006 9:36:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Immigration Control and Border Security -The jobs George W. Bush doesn't want to do.)
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To: B4Ranch

Yes I am concerned about sleeper cells of muslims. Also the radical elements I was referring to were extremist groups. White Supremist neo Nazi types. I would hate if they caused something tragic to happen and the blame got put on some other group that was voicing its opposition in valid ways. One of my goals in this is to keep this peaceful. As to who the latinos pray for. Well I know my wife and her family pray for this Country, my grandfather's health, and the troops in Iraq. As to the Latinos I know in Church , we pray for each other and for the Church. As to what Latinos on the whole pray for, I suspect that is a valid as a question as asking what the Germans pray for. I expect different things.

Also, I don't recall calling anyone names. I assume you mean words like racist. Since I have been called that before I am very careful in applying that name without cause. To be honest that's a tiresome charge since those that go against the common wind on here on this issue are called names and have their manhood and patriotism called into question all the time.


120 posted on 04/16/2006 10:01:49 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
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