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WEAPON RAP FOR SELF-DEFENSE PAIR
NY Post ^ | April 16, 2006 | PHILIP MESSING

Posted on 04/16/2006 5:33:39 AM PDT by Pharmboy

Two brothers who were shot defending their Brooklyn shop from a pair of stick-up men were busted for returning fire with an illegal handgun, police sources said. The gunfight erupted at 7:40 p.m. Friday when the two bandits, entered Vinnie's Style, a clothing boutique on Flatbush Avenue.

One of the pair allegedly fired a .45-caliber pistol when the brothers, Paul and Jacob Parris, refused to get down.

Both were charged with weapons possession when cops learned the Parris' used an unlicensed 9mm pistol in the shootout, sources said.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; gungrabbers; secondamendment
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To: Rekless01

Out here in Cooke Co TX the sheriff would take about a minute to conclude it was justifiable and compliment
them on reducing the criminal population.


21 posted on 04/16/2006 8:03:25 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: rahbert; Jim Robinson
"Out here in Cooke Co TX the sheriff would take about a minute to conclude it was justifiable and compliment
them on reducing the criminal population."

The simple answer is for all the conservative people who wish to be legally allowed to defend themselves to move to where it is already legal. Let the criminals molest only those who haven't the sense to go where they don't have to worry about being found to have violated the law when they defend themselves. Think of it as evolution in action.

JimRob, you might want to think about moving your server(s) somewhere more conservative, too.
22 posted on 04/16/2006 8:09:35 AM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Pharmboy

When their are laws you obey them.. period.

Or should we all just go the way of illegal immigrants?


23 posted on 04/16/2006 8:28:10 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Pharmboy

Federal suit against the city for violating civil rights, via denying right to self defense under 2A; and try to find a shadow of a pennumbra under 14A?


24 posted on 04/16/2006 9:27:47 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: bill1952
Is it difficult to register a firearm in NYC?

Not "difficult"; dang near impossible, is more like it.

And what happened to the crooks?

Since the robbers had a legally stolen weapon; and were shot at with an illegally possessed weapon; and had their plans fouly ruined by criminally armed victems, they have suffered enough, and will be released and awarded damages for mental anguish.

25 posted on 04/16/2006 9:33:15 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Pharmboy

NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE!

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA!


26 posted on 04/16/2006 9:54:59 AM PDT by SelectiveJNJ
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To: Old Student; rahbert

Hey, Florida needs every conservative voter out there.

We are working hard on pushing Florida out of the swing catagory and firmly into the red column.

And in the next census, we will push NY out of 3rd place in the delegate count!

We want every one of those many delegates to go GOP.


27 posted on 04/16/2006 9:56:07 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
Join the NRA.

Lifetime member since 1975.

28 posted on 04/16/2006 12:19:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: Almondjoy
When their are laws you obey them.. period.

Wrong. An unconstitutional law is not a valid law, and you are under no obligation to obey it. See American Jurisprudence (16AmJur 2nd, Sec. 177):

An unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but wholly null and ineffective for any purpose. It imposes no duty, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional statute, and no courts are bound to enforce it.

29 posted on 04/16/2006 2:02:48 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Pharmboy

Jury trial = 'not guilty'.


30 posted on 04/16/2006 2:29:39 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Pharmboy

Better judged by 12 than carried by 6.


31 posted on 04/16/2006 2:33:12 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: dpwiener

The right to bear arms doesn't mean that you can't put restrictions on those rights.

I don't want a 4 year old running around with a gun.

You can have rights.. but have common sense applied to them.

You think it's unconstitutional that's your business. But then you are willing of course to pay the penalty for those that don't see things your way.

You carry around all the illegal firearms you want.. but please don't ever provide your name or I'll be the first person to call in the ATF on you.


32 posted on 04/16/2006 2:37:12 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Pharmboy

I heart NYC. No, wait, make that I hate NYC.


33 posted on 04/16/2006 2:40:50 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Old Student; dpwiener
Old Student wrote:

The simple answer is for all the conservative people who wish to be legally allowed to defend themselves to move to where it is already legal.

Wrong, says dpweiner:

An unconstitutional law is not a valid law, and you are under no obligation to obey it.
See American Jurisprudence (16AmJur 2nd, Sec. 177):
"-- An unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is in reality no law, but wholly null and ineffective for any purpose. It imposes no duty, confers no rights, creates no office, bestows no power or authority on anyone, affords no protection and justifies no acts performed under it. No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional statute, and no courts are bound to enforce it.--"
29 dpwiener


Moving out of States like NY, Mass, & CA, -- in effect abandoning them to gun prohibitionists, -- cannot be the answer.

The answer is civil disobedience on a massive scale: "-- No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional statute, and no courts are bound to enforce it --"

Fight enough of these cases before juries, appeal in the court system on up to the USSC, -- and eventually the rogue States will be forced to comply with the Constitution.

34 posted on 04/16/2006 3:03:29 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine

Perhaps you've failed to note that those states already do not follow the law as it should be. I left California in 1973 because the writing was on the wall even then. There were more people there, even back then, that thought guns wrong and evil that it was too late; today, it is even more so. I hope they remember that when the Aztlan-adherents go overt.


35 posted on 04/16/2006 3:16:03 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Almondjoy
The right to bear arms doesn't mean that you can't put restrictions on those rights. I don't want a 4 year old running around with a gun.

Yep, reasonable regulations concerning guns can be written by fed state, & local governments, as long as they do not infringe on our rights to life, liberty or property, without due process of law.
Prohibitions on guns violate due process in both writing & enforcing.

You can have rights.. but have common sense applied to them.
You think it's unconstitutional that's your business.

It's everybody's business.. We are all obligated to protect & defend our supreme laws.. The 2nd is the "Law of the Land".

But then you are willing of course to pay the penalty for those that don't see things your way.
You carry around all the illegal firearms you want..

There are no "illegal firearms" under the Constitution. -- Some types are just unreasonably regulated. Such prohibitions are unconstitutional.

but please don't ever provide your name or I'll be the first person to call in the ATF on you.

Nice to know who your friends are, -- thanks.

36 posted on 04/16/2006 3:25:33 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Old Student
How could I 'fail to note' CA's slide into gun prohibitionism?

I arrived in the State in 1958 with [among others] a perfectly legal semi-auto rifle with a large capacity mag..

That rifle is now deemed to be "illegal"? -- Bet me.
37 posted on 04/16/2006 3:33:26 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Pharmboy
Today there was a story that NYC will break new ground in enacting a bevvy of laws REQUIRING decorum and good manners.

Why not just repeal all gun laws, thereby ENSURING decorum and good manners?

38 posted on 04/16/2006 3:38:49 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Pharmboy

The Crooks (the Robbers) will get off on technicalities.


39 posted on 04/16/2006 4:03:09 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

I forgot to say that the "Criminals" (the robbery suspects) will be able to sue the business owners in court for everything they are worth (That is, if NYC does not sieze the property for themselves)


40 posted on 04/16/2006 4:06:16 PM PDT by Thunder90
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