Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 16 April 2006

Various big media television networks ^ | 16 April 2006 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, April 16th, 2006

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Sens. Christopher Dodd, D-Conn., and Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.; former House Speaker Newt Gingrich; Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Mark Everson.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Joan Chittister, executive director, Center for Contemporary Spirituality; Rabbi Michael Lerner, editor, Tikkun Magazine; Jon Meacham, managing editor, Newsweek; Seyyed Hossein Nasr, professor of Islamic studies, George Washington University; Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor, First Things; Joel Osteen, senior pastor, Lakewood Church.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson and Sen. George Allen, R-Va.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and Evan Bayh, D-Ind.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Samir Sumaidaie, Iraqi ambassador to the U.S. ; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; former Secretary of State Kissinger; retired Army Brig. Gen. David Grange; Rev. Jerry Falwell..

[eeevil conservative]

Brit:

"MY EYE!"

ROFLLLL!!

[AliVeritas]

Why Rumsfeld should stay
http://www.redstate.com/story/2006/4/15/183834/446

[AliVeritas]

Well taken, read the biglizards link also.
The Generals and John Boyd
http://www.redstate.com/story/2006/4/15/14146/6907

[Phsstpok]

Did the generals campaign against Lincoln's reelection? Did they call for the resignation of the Secretary of War or the President?

Well, if you consider all of the senior officers who were generals during Lincoln's presidency, some of those who served in his army at the start of his term ended up taking up arms against him before his reelection.

It took 500,000 lives to settle that little political disagreement.  And as I mentioned in my post to CWOJackson, they were Democrats then, too. 

[rodguy911]

...the fact that the MSM/DNC is not believed anymore is changing the entire ball game.

Great post samantha and very true!

Quite often news stories begin on Sunday with the shows and our takes here and continue to Monday on talk radio.

They get spun by the drive/by MSM on Sunday but by Monday they get deciphered very quickly by our side. The New Media at work.

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[AliVeritas]

The libs have drug out another who dissents, heads up.

Coming home — disillusioned
By Christopher H. Sheppard
CRAIG WHITE / KRT

Three years ago, I was a Marine Corps captain on the Iraqi/Kuwaiti border, participating in the invasion of Iraq. Awestruck, I heard our howitzers thunder and watched artillery rockets rise into the night sky and streak toward Iraq — their light bathing the desert moonscape like giant arc welders.

As I watched the Iraq war begin, I completely trusted the Bush administration. I thought we were going to prove all of the left-wing antiwar protesters and dissenters wrong. I thought we were going to make America safer. Regrettably, I acknowledge that it was I who was wrong.

I believed the Bush administration when it said Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. I believed its assertion that Iraq was trying to buy yellowcake uranium from Africa and refine it into weapons-grade uranium for a nuclear bomb. I believed its claim Iraq had vast quantities of biological and chemical agents. After years of thorough inspections, all of these claims have been disproved.

I believed the administration when it claimed there was overwhelming evidence Iraq was in cahoots with al-Qaida. In January 2004, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell admitted that there was no concrete evidence linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida.

I believed the administration when it grandly proclaimed we were going to bring a stable, Western-style liberal democracy to Iraq, complete with religious tolerance and the rule of law. We never had enough troops in Iraq to restore civil order and the rule of law. The Iraqi elections have produced a ruling majority of Shiite fundamentalists and marginalized the seething Sunni minority. Iraq dangerously teeters on the brink of civil war. We have emboldened Iran and destabilized the entire Middle East.

I believed the administration when it claimed the war could be done quickly and cheaply. It said the war would cost only between $50 billion and $60 billion. It said that Iraqi oil revenue would fund the country's reconstruction. I believed President Bush when he landed on the USS Lincoln and said "major combat operations have ended."

The war has cost the American taxpayers $250 billion and counting. The vast majority — 94 percent — of the more than 2,300 United States service members killed in Iraq have occurred since Bush's "Top Gun" proclamation. The cost in men and materiel has been far beyond what we were led to believe.

I volunteered to go back to Iraq for the fall and winter of 2004-2005. I went back out of frustration and guilt; frustration from watching Iraq unravel on the news and guilt that I wasn't there trying to stop it. Many fine Marines from my reserve battalion felt the same and volunteered to go back. I buried my mounting suspicions and mustered enough trust and faith in my civilian leadership to go back.

I returned disillusioned by what I saw. I participated in the second battle of Fallujah in November 2004. We crushed the insurgents in the city, but we only ended up scattering them throughout the province. The dumb ones stayed and died. The smart ones left town before the battle, to garner more recruits and fight another day. We were simply the little Dutch boy with our finger in the dike. In retrospect, we never had enough troops to firmly control the region; we had just enough to maintain a tenuous equilibrium.

I now know I wrongfully placed my faith and trust in a presidential administration hopelessly mired in incompetence, hubris and a lack of accountability. It planned a war based on false intelligence and unrealistic assumptions. It has strategically surrendered the condition of victory in Iraq to people who do not share our vision, values or interests. The Bush administration has proven successful at only one thing in Iraq — painting us into a corner with no feasible exit.

I will never trust any of them again.

Christopher H. Sheppard is a former Marine captain who served two tours of duty in Iraq as a combat engineer. He currently is finishing his master's degree in mass communication and lives in Marysville.

http://archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com/cgi-bin/texis.cgi/web/vortex/display?slug=snomarine12&date=20060412&query=coming%2Bhome

[rodguy911]

The purchase of a dozen hydrogen generators by Iraq is pretty intimidating evidence of what they were really up to, great link Ali.

[Mr Rogers]

Boyd was TACTICALLY right about the F-16. As designed, it was a great day, point defense fighter.

But STRATEGICALLY, the USAF doesn't do day, point defense. The F-16 was a fighter without a mission. So fattening it up was the only way to make it useful. Even in the 90s, Boyd's disciples were arguing to take the radar out of the F-16 & make it an AIM-9 VFR fighter.

That would have been a disaster. We have no use for the ultimate dogfighter - particularly since 'manuever to the rear' dogfighting was on its last legs when I was a youngster in F-4s. Success in modern 'dogfighting' has more to do with datalink, AMRAAM and radars than in 9 G turns up your own arse.

Personally, I prefer 2 engine jets with big radars. So sue me! - I grew up in the F-4 before my career when steadily downhill in tactical bombers, etc.

[AliVeritas]

Check it out... from someone who doesn't care from Rummy, yet sees a lot amiss.
http://dadmanly.blogspot.com/2006/04/knives-and-knaves.html

[kabar]

...Zinni (who had an appointment beyond military duty in the Clinton Administration)

No, Powell appointed Zinni as special Middle East envoy under the Bush administration.

[shalom aleichem]

Rangle does not really wish to reinstitute the draft. He just wants to shake middle America out of its apathy and horrify them at the prospect of Junior being dragged off to slaughter. Just more insurgency. Besides, the courts were about to strike down the draft as involuntary servitude (Amendment XIII) before it was discontinued. The all-volunteer concept is working.

[kabar]

Big difference. That was a civil war.

[rodguy911]

I heard our howitzers and watched artillery rockets rise into the night sky and streak toward Iraq--the light bathing the desert moonscape like giant arc welders

Sounds like a Brokeback mountain moment to me,lol

[Phsstpok]

Gingrich: "Rumsfeld listens to generals; he doesn't obey them."

great catch.  Where is it from? 

Have you heard his story about Hillarycare being based on the German health care system and why that won't work in America?  It involves the phrase "In most of America, a speed limit is a benchmark of opportunity."

The man has a way with a phrase.

[OldFriend]

I actually heard some in the local media saying that Scalia had 'given the finger' in a church.

The lies are stomach turning.

[samantha]

It does fit, but I would also call them strong armed liars, or truth Hijackers.

[OldFriend]

The Chinese had a gain from the embassy bombing.

It turned their citizens against the US when it was coming up on the anniversary of the massacre at Tianamen Square.

IMO the Chinese government welcomed the diversion.

[rodguy911]

This could be one of the links of the day! There is so much here you hardly know where to start.

[johnny7]

You can tell by the ex-generals rhetoric... they have become politicized to the xtreme. To do so in peacetime is unfortunate... but to do it now questions their loyalties.