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Officers in Call to Legalise Use of Drugs
Edinburgh Evening News (UK) ^ | 14 Apr 2006

Posted on 04/15/2006 2:21:22 PM PDT by Know your rights

SCOTTISH police officers have sparked anger after calling for the legalisation of all drugs - including heroin and cocaine.

The Strathclyde Police Federation has called for a dramatic change of direction in the battle on drugs crime, and the issue will be debated later this month.

The body, which represents 7000 officers, is set to argue that all drugs should be licensed in the same way as cigarettes and alcohol. Officers claim this would cut drug deaths and divert police resources to other crime-fighting priorities. It is the first time that an organisation representing officers has made such a demand.

Opponents today said the move would only increase the availability of drugs. But the federation believes millions of pounds are wasted on enforcing existing laws, with little impact on the availability of drugs on the street.

Inspector Jim Duffy, chairman of the federation, said: "We are not winning the war against drugs and we need to think about different ways to tackle it."

The Scottish Executive said that drug legislation is reserved to Westminster.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You sound like a Jack Chick tract.


81 posted on 04/17/2006 2:18:27 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: tpaine
"Under our Constitution, legislators shall make no law respecting the theories,establishments, dogmas, etc, of the Catholic Church, nor any other religion."

Like I said, then don't ask for a religious source of our laws.

82 posted on 04/17/2006 2:45:37 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: muawiyah
Controlling and regulating something does give the cops the privilege of pushing around the users doesn't it?

That's exactly the problem; anyone not violating the natural rights of others (nor posing clear and present danger of such violation) shouldn't be pushed around at all by anyone.

83 posted on 04/17/2006 3:40:00 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Dry" states, however, found that alcohol was being shipped in from "wet" states. They petitioned the federal government for help and Congress passed the Webb-Kenyon Act, forbidding this activity. It wasn't effective

Tough beans. Who ever promised any state that they could effectively enforce any damn-fool law that entered their heads?

84 posted on 04/17/2006 3:43:30 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: muawiyah
Having grown up next door to a Mafia soldier, I can assure you that the black market for alcohol never disappeared. It's alive and thriving.

Have any evidence, or are we supposed to just take your word for it?

85 posted on 04/17/2006 3:44:43 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights; pennboricua
Well, whatever place "natural rights" has in this argument, I was responding to a statement by Pennboricua which was: "Way to go, they should do the same here in the USA, when prohibition was revoked, we did not see as far as I know excessive use of alcohol, it was regulated, licensed, controlled.."

Regulation, licensing and control necessarily entail the use, to one degree or the other, of LEO.

In the end recombinant DNA technology is going to take care of the problem of "natural herbs" by allowing for the displacement of the crops you have come to know by those which turn into alcohol if heated to 180 degrees (due to an enzyme produced by the modified genome).

We know how to handle alcohol if not MJ.

86 posted on 04/17/2006 3:49:28 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Know your rights
"Who ever promised any state that they could effectively enforce any damn-fool law that entered their heads?"

So turning the drug legalization decision over to the individual states, therefore, would be pointless. Why, then, do you support this approach?

87 posted on 04/17/2006 3:50:08 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Know your rights
Sure, he got arrested toting cocaine at the age of 80.

You want his name, or what?

88 posted on 04/17/2006 3:51:02 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
"Well, whatever place "natural rights" has in this argument"

None whatsoever, in that it's a philosphical libertarian approach to writing laws, having no connection to history or reality.

BUT, if you buy into it, MrLeRoy's job to convince you to legalize his precious drugs is that much easier.

89 posted on 04/17/2006 3:58:57 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dan Evans
after they become invalids from drug abuse?

What you mean after, square? Free drugs, free crib, free food, free condoms, free sex, NOW, NOW, NOW dude!

90 posted on 04/17/2006 4:01:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Another handgun jumps to the aid of a person in danger.)
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To: robertpaulsen
All these guys have done is convince me that recombinant DNA technology MUST resolve the natural herb issue ~ turn them all into "franken herbs".

Reduce them to chewing and swallowing the stuff ~ no smoking allowed or it's a Richard Pryor "head trip" first ~ running downhill with their hair on fire sort of thing.

91 posted on 04/17/2006 4:03:39 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Why couldn't that same technology be used to say, create a THC producing tomato? Or coca producing Kudzoo?


92 posted on 04/17/2006 4:43:10 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: somniferum

Recombinant DNA tech is expensive.


93 posted on 04/17/2006 4:49:19 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Cartels' could muster a large R&D budget.


94 posted on 04/17/2006 5:00:10 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: somniferum
Still, your typical cartel manager is the type of guy who's going to go out and hire junkie scientists because he can get them for a pile of coke a week.

There's nothing cool about a narcotrafficante.

95 posted on 04/17/2006 5:07:15 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Oh, no doubt about that. However, if faced with extinction by a 'silver bullet' technology such as you are describing, the multi-billion dollar industry (the people at the top of it anyway) would probably commit significant resources to overcoming the technology.


96 posted on 04/17/2006 5:14:09 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: somniferum
That would be contrary to their "risk model". 100% of the growing is done by people OUTSIDE the marketing network.

If fields are burned, the narcotrafficantes suffer no loss.

We'll have the new seed, weed and bush in place, growing invisibly among the old stuff before these guys catch on.

I suppose a sign of a bad crop would be if we stopped using herbicides on it.

97 posted on 04/17/2006 5:17:31 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah

Maybe I am just overestimating the intel gathering capabilities of these organizations (Too much TV! =P)


98 posted on 04/17/2006 5:21:30 PM PDT by somniferum
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
it is CHEMICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE!

So you think we should have a declaration of war, and deploy the military to the streets to engage the enemy?

99 posted on 04/17/2006 5:28:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Does Congress have to power to prohibit certain types of commerce among the several states -- in other words, does the phrase "to regulate" include (among other things) "to prohibit"?

"Certain types"? Pray tell what types of "commerce" does your interpretation of the Commerce Clause preclude Congress from regulating?

100 posted on 04/17/2006 5:31:29 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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