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1 posted on 04/15/2006 11:44:18 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
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The single cell shows such extraordinary complexity that to suggest it came about by sheer accident

Name me one person who has suggested that it came about by sheer accident.

2 posted on 04/15/2006 11:49:30 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Now to voting. All those against the evolution raise your tails and throw a coconut at the vote counter.


3 posted on 04/15/2006 11:50:28 AM PDT by GSlob
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Reasonable article. But expect to get flamed when the evo's catch up!


5 posted on 04/15/2006 11:53:04 AM PDT by guitarist
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ACK. Where to begin?

1. For the millionth time, there's nothing atheistic about evolution, nor is there anything necessarily evolutionary about atheism. I believe in God, I am a religious man, and creationism is still bunk. This guy's claim that 10% of National Academy of Science members are creationists is lunacy.

2. Two readers called my attention to a discovery last week on an Arctic island of something which may be the fossil remains of the mysteriously missing "transitional species." Or then maybe it isn't transitional. Maybe it's a hitherto undetected species on its own.

All species are by definition transitional. What would a transitional species that isn't a species look like?

If Darwin was right, and the change from one species to another through natural selection occurred constantly in millions of instances over millions of years, then the fossil record should be teaming with transitional species. It isn't.

Incorrect.

The single cell shows such extraordinary complexity that to suggest it came about by sheer accident taxes credulity.

Correct. Fortunately, evolution doesn't suggest it came about by sheer accident.

. The Boston Globe reports that Harvard has begun an expensive project to discover how life emerged from the chemical soup of early earth. In the 150 years since Darwin, says the Globe, "scientists cannot explain how the process began."

Abiogenesis isn't evolution.

6 posted on 04/15/2006 11:55:07 AM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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I got it from a National Post (newspaper) article published two years ago, which said that 90 percent of the members of the National Academy of Science "consider themselves atheists."

LOL!

8 posted on 04/15/2006 11:55:54 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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"I think that evidence will accumulate to suggest that much of the genetic variation leading to the evolution of life on earth was not random, but was generated by biochemical processes that exhibit intelligent behavior."

That sounds like Robert Shapiro

10 posted on 04/15/2006 11:56:58 AM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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But the very exuberance with which such a discovery is announced argues the I.D. case. If Darwin was right, and the change from one species to another through natural selection occurred constantly in millions of instances over millions of years, then the fossil record should be teaming with transitional species. It isn't. That's why even one possibility, after many years of searching, becomes front-page news.

Obviously, the author doesn't know what a "transitional species" is, much less how to identify it.

All species are transitional. There is nothing here that "bolsters" the ID case and the number of scientists that believe in God is irrelevant to the number who understand TToE.

11 posted on 04/15/2006 11:57:56 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Don't call them "Illegal Aliens." Call them what they are: CRIMINAL INVADERS!)
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To me this could all be settled by asking God himself.


13 posted on 04/15/2006 11:58:28 AM PDT by Screamname (By God, pray for me, someone help me please! Hillary is my Senator! HELP MEEE!)
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Since if you're not an atheist, you allow for the possibility of a Mind or Intelligence behind nature, this puts 10 percent in the I.D. camp.

Astounding leap of logic.

14 posted on 04/15/2006 11:59:01 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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Ping.


16 posted on 04/15/2006 12:03:14 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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Accepting evolution and believing in God are not mutually exclusive.


18 posted on 04/15/2006 12:04:06 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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It's par for the course that "established" scientists hate it when new theories are proposed. They have invested their careers in the old theories.

Then gradually, the new theories start to attract new proponents, who have less at stake in the old theories and are willing to consider new ones.

Younger scientists come into the pool, and they are more open to new ideas as the brain-dead old geezers--scientists, administrators, foundations grants directors--retire or die off.

Thomas Kuhn made a persuasive argument for this process, in The Structure of Scientific Revolutions.


20 posted on 04/15/2006 12:05:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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An honest poll of scientists would be limited to those who qualified in areas of biology and biochemistry and have actually studied evolution, or have at least had graduate level classes in population genetics.

An honest poll would limit choices to those being examined by science. That would include the conjectures of Behe, Dembski and Shapiro. I would actually be interested in the results of such a poll. Too bad no one else is.


28 posted on 04/15/2006 12:12:18 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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Survey shows 2/3 of Scientists Believe in God

Survey shows 2/3 of Scientists Believe in Global Warming

32 posted on 04/15/2006 12:15:33 PM PDT by opinionator
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"Now when the advocates of "intelligent design" challenge the scientific establishment's assumptions about "natural selection," it moves aggressively to shut them up. So the I.D. people have this in common with Galileo."

ID'ers are such a bunch of whining Drama Queens and professional victims.
34 posted on 04/15/2006 12:17:35 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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"Where, one reader demanded, did I get the information that 10 percent of scientists accept intelligent design? I got it from a National Post (newspaper) article published two years ago, which said that 90 percent of the members of the National Academy of Science "consider themselves atheists." Since if you're not an atheist, you allow for the possibility of a Mind or Intelligence behind nature, this puts 10 percent in the I.D. camp."

Not being an atheist doesn't mean you buy into the ID drivel.


40 posted on 04/15/2006 12:20:40 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To me the mistake that most people make is assuming God is a seperate deity, a man/being who sits in the clouds and makes all these decisions. What I believe is true is that everything is God, there is no seperation. When you wonder if God is intellegent it depends who you talk to. You talk to Ann Coulter you are talking to God as intellegent, you talk to Ted Kennedy you are talking to God as a moron. To deny there is no God is ridiculous. If there were no God there would not be anything. That there is something instead of nothing proves that God exists, but again all of "this" could all be a dream. It`s the Matrix!! AAAHHHHH!!!!!!! It must be! How else could there exist such illogical things such as liberals and Hillary? OMG it`s TRUE!!! AHHHH!


44 posted on 04/15/2006 12:23:15 PM PDT by Screamname (By God, pray for me, someone help me please! Hillary is my Senator! HELP MEEE!)
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The McGill applicant was furious. Evolution, he said, needs no evidence. It's fact. Apparently Harvard University doesn't quite agree with him. The Boston Globe reports that Harvard has begun an expensive project to discover how life emerged from the chemical soup of early earth. In the 150 years since Darwin, says the Globe, "scientists cannot explain how the process began."

Looks like the FR evolutionists need to have a talk with the Harvard evolutionists and get them straightened out since "the origin of life was never a part of evolution." Those ignorant Harvardites.

49 posted on 04/15/2006 12:26:29 PM PDT by connectthedots
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Reading through the various replies to your post suggests that "Darwinism" has become a religion. IMHO, a theory is something one can agree with, disagree with, or fail to understand well enough to form an opinion.
54 posted on 04/15/2006 12:29:51 PM PDT by Fielding (Sans Dieu Rien)
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...of the mysteriously missing "transitional species." Or then maybe it isn't transitional. Maybe it's a hitherto undetected species on its own. ...

Huh?

62 posted on 04/15/2006 12:41:35 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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