Posted on 04/15/2006 5:27:53 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
Are these fools are bright enough to realize that thay are giving AID AND COMFORT to the enemy in a time of war?
Lester Holt played it right down the middle during the invasion phase of OIF. He had this weird notion that people were watching to see the news, not how much he knew.
People, repeat, THIS IS ORCHESTRATED.
There was a leaked Dem strategy document for 2006 about 6 weeks ago. In it they explicitly said that the bare handful of leftist Clinton era generals available would be trotted out to trash the administration in whatever manner the DNC felt best.
This is all about November. EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE MSM FOR THE NEXT 7 MONTHS IS ABOUT NOVEMBER.
The proper Freeper response to this kind of traitorous maneuvering is to recognize that all politics is local and tactics trump policy every single time.
Find vulnerable House districts and send money and volunteer your time to the GOP candidate in that district. That is the response that will hurt them most.
bttt
Thanks for the post.
The Dems using CIA/State employees and now the military to undermine US Policy is a Constitutional crisis.
They have crossed the line into disloyal opposition...Can we question their patriotism now?
Terrific report.
It says plenty about CBS that they would hire the lefty partisan Perky rather than an accomplished veteran journalist like Lester Holt.
What do they mean by mistakes? What mistakes?
This mantra is thrown out all the time but the "mistakes" are never identified. Failure of your crystal ball is not a mistake.
In all wars you go to school on the enemy and they go to school on you. And you adjust.
In arial combat their is a term. OODA loop. Coined by Col John Boyd USAF. It stands for observe, orient, decide, act.
..these sorry retired generals strike me as whiners with dubious motives.
Check it out... from Slate, no less.
Six Retired Generals Hate Rumsfeld
http://www.slate.com/id/2139847/
As ElRushbo so brilliantly observed,if this were the real desire of The Lefty,War-Hating Weenies,then they must be inordinately STUPID!By calling in such a public way for Rummie's resignation,they have made it ABSOLUTELY necessary for him to serve out the remainder of W's administration!!!Are they REALLY this stupid;I wonder???????????
I am in awe of your ability to find and then share so many instructive articles and blogger comments. You must be the speedreader record holder of all time. Thanks, and keep the info coming.
Certainly you can't. The claim was made that the sniping was hurting the effectiveness and the morale of the military. If we can't have decreased effectiveness and morale under this President, then we can't have it while under one with a D next to their name.
We'll never know because Clinton was risk averse.
That's a straw man argument. We don't know what he would do. Yes, he is more risk adverse than W. But then too so was Reagan. But both W and Reagan are superior to Clinton. But the fact remains, Free Republic would applaud a former general or admiral if they came out against Clinton or his sec of defense. If it's wrong under W it would be wrong under Clinton or any other D, especially if our claim is that these are unique times and we shouldn't be using television and the public press as the forum to discuss the shortcomings that have occurred during this war.
Joe,
There was some dissention on the floor of the house by Republicans while Clinton attacked 6 countries in a two year period. They said their piece and then moved on.
The entire political might and machine of the DNC has been thrown at undermining this war. A big difference. They consciously decided to crack a few eggs with the troops.
Our country is in trouble and we are in a weaker position now because of it. The Iranians and our advesaries know it.
Thanks, as always, Lancey. Makes you wonder why Holt's name more isn't in the mix for top positions?
I don't remember it as such. Throughout Bosnia, there were calls that it was simply something that was a police action. (Yes it was, but we were also trying to maintain the peace between various factions that would have broken into a civil war. Sounds familiar.) It was both congressional and our side of the talking heads. And remember all the wag the dog stuff? Yeah, it probably was, but it was still our military engaged in varioius duties and it still impacted effectiveness and morale. But we thought it was cool to discuss wagging the dog. ANd it was our side throwing full force at the other side.
I don't recall any movies being made to undermine the war from our side.
Movies and talk radio only points out that both sides use the methods they have strength in to put forth a position.
Nothing like the investment from the Dem machine...
Fahrenheit 9/11, Intelligence personnel systematically leaking classified, ABU GHARAIB on the front page of the NY times for 38 straight days, Recruiters protested, then you have the conduct of the DEMS Who largely voted for this war.
You have to remember except for Kosovo, Clinton never sought nor received Congressional approval or UN Resolutions for his military operations. He overstated the cleansing in Kosovo and even bombed civilian targets like the Serbian TV station killing civilians with NO MEDIA COVERAGE.
IF Bush had attacked six countries in two year without approval the Dems would burn the whitehouse down.
I don't remember fake Koran burning stories being generated and played 24/7 back then. In fact I don't beleive the american public even knew what was going on.
I've seen more stories about the heroism of John Kerry and Murtha than of the entire 800,000 troops who have rotated through Iraq.
THE DEMS control MSM media and it has been one 24/7/365 campaign to undermine the war to regain political power. The Generals using their military positions is just the next step.
Don't forget the mileage from the Body Armor shortage either. It didn't exist after 8 Clinton defense budgets and these Generals were responsible for preparing requirements during the annual budget drills. Apparently, they were too busy flying around like rocks stars in Gulfstream V's to recognize the need for armor.
Ok, so you've got Fatboys movie. But inteligence folks leaking information, hey that's fair game for coverage. It gives all a better understanding as to what and why happens. And were those folks who leaked punished? ABU GHARAIB is also fair game. It should have never happened. For all that coverage, we have had some convictions for the crimes that were portrayed and written. ABU GHARAIB should never have happened and if it hadn't happened, it wouldn't be published. As for the dems who voted for the war and then turned, yes that's a problem. They didn't vote the courage of their convictions. However, if this war had gone like Desert Storm, they would have had mud in their face. The public and many others expectations were that this war would go very similar to Desert Storm and be quickly dispatched. That hasn't happened. And after long denying mistakes, the administration now admits that mistakes have been made, even early on.
You have to remember except for Kosovo, Clinton never sought nor received Congressional approval or UN Resolutions for his military operations. He overstated the cleansing in Kosovo and even bombed civilian targets like the Serbian TV station killing civilians with NO MEDIA COVERAGE. There was coverage. Our side of the congressional leaders were making noise. Our side of the talking heads was making noise. All about we shouldn't be the policemen of the world. Well now, we're the policment of the world, and lovin it.
IF Bush had attacked six countries in two year without approval the Dems would burn the whitehouse down.
Again, our side did make the same noise and was virtually inviting the rank and file of our side to come to the whitehouse with pitchforks and torches.
I don't remember fake Koran burning stories being generated and played 24/7 back then. In fact I don't beleive the american public even knew what was going on.
It was. There just weren't as many injured or killed soldiers in that still ongoing military action to be splashed across the screens. Everyone had heard of Milosovich. Doesn't mean it soaked in. For that matter, simply because they can't remember the stories, sort of goes hand in hand with they can't name who their senator is or congressional rep.
I don't remember fake Koran burning stories being generated and played 24/7 back then. In fact I don't beleive the american public even knew what was going on.
I don't think the media ginned those Koran burning stories. They may have repeated them. And yes, they may have even relished repeating them. But while the actual stories were fake, they claims were real. And besides , at first ABU GHARAIB was downplayed by our side as fake, overplayed....
I've seen more stories about the heroism of John Kerry and Murtha than of the entire 800,000 troops who have rotated through Iraq.
Selective filtering. I've seen many stories on the heroic efforts of our troops. Unlike Vietnam, these guys are still true heroes to the folks here at home. I traveled in February and had troops come by in the airport while waiting on flights or making connections. To a person, they were applauded. Many offerred to buy their lunch. It was wonderful to see the support still so strong.
THE DEMS control MSM media and it has been one 24/7/365 campaign to undermine the war to regain political power. The Generals using their military positions is just the next step.
Funny, but I thought that was the old media that had little impact. For something that has become irrelevant, we seem to have a lot of worry over it.
But that being said, that same MSM has become the home to Limbaugh and Hannity. Limbaugh is carried on the ABC owned and operated stations in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, San Francisco. He's carried on the CBS owned and operated stations in Saint Louis. He was in Pittsburg, but that changed when his syndicator switched the affiliate to a station owned by the syndicators parent. It was ABC that gave him his home for his nationwide rollout.
Hannity IS syndicated by the MSM (ABC) as well on virtually all thier owned and operateds. Now Mark Levin is becoming rolled out on those same ABC MSM owned stations. ABC in San Francisco has a station dedicated to conserative talk.
If they are so interested in controlling us through disinformation, then why do they work so hard for Limbaugh and Hannity to succeed. These guys are the heavy weights and could do it on their own, but it's the MSM that supports and pushes them as a product every day.
Don't forget the mileage from the Body Armor shortage either. It didn't exist after 8 Clinton defense budgets and these Generals were responsible for preparing requirements during the annual budget drills. Apparently, they were too busy flying around like rocks stars in Gulfstream V's to recognize the need for armor.
Funny, but I thought the budget was set by the Congress. At least that's the story when Reagan couldn't get balanced budgets. Same for W. Seems we had Republicans in control of the purse strings since 95 or 6 of Clinton's 8 years. And remember, our side was promoting the peace dividend after Reagan and Bush I doing such a good job bringing communism to its knees. We were told that we didn't need that type of military any more. That was our side speaking.
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