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To: Wristpin
Fahrenheit 9/11, Intelligence personnel systematically leaking classified, ABU GHARAIB on the front page of the NY times for 38 straight days, Recruiters protested, then you have the conduct of the DEMS Who largely voted for this war.

Ok, so you've got Fatboys movie. But inteligence folks leaking information, hey that's fair game for coverage. It gives all a better understanding as to what and why happens. And were those folks who leaked punished? ABU GHARAIB is also fair game. It should have never happened. For all that coverage, we have had some convictions for the crimes that were portrayed and written. ABU GHARAIB should never have happened and if it hadn't happened, it wouldn't be published. As for the dems who voted for the war and then turned, yes that's a problem. They didn't vote the courage of their convictions. However, if this war had gone like Desert Storm, they would have had mud in their face. The public and many others expectations were that this war would go very similar to Desert Storm and be quickly dispatched. That hasn't happened. And after long denying mistakes, the administration now admits that mistakes have been made, even early on.

You have to remember except for Kosovo, Clinton never sought nor received Congressional approval or UN Resolutions for his military operations. He overstated the cleansing in Kosovo and even bombed civilian targets like the Serbian TV station killing civilians with NO MEDIA COVERAGE. There was coverage. Our side of the congressional leaders were making noise. Our side of the talking heads was making noise. All about we shouldn't be the policemen of the world. Well now, we're the policment of the world, and lovin it.

IF Bush had attacked six countries in two year without approval the Dems would burn the whitehouse down.

Again, our side did make the same noise and was virtually inviting the rank and file of our side to come to the whitehouse with pitchforks and torches.

I don't remember fake Koran burning stories being generated and played 24/7 back then. In fact I don't beleive the american public even knew what was going on.

It was. There just weren't as many injured or killed soldiers in that still ongoing military action to be splashed across the screens. Everyone had heard of Milosovich. Doesn't mean it soaked in. For that matter, simply because they can't remember the stories, sort of goes hand in hand with they can't name who their senator is or congressional rep.

I don't remember fake Koran burning stories being generated and played 24/7 back then. In fact I don't beleive the american public even knew what was going on.

I don't think the media ginned those Koran burning stories. They may have repeated them. And yes, they may have even relished repeating them. But while the actual stories were fake, they claims were real. And besides , at first ABU GHARAIB was downplayed by our side as fake, overplayed....

I've seen more stories about the heroism of John Kerry and Murtha than of the entire 800,000 troops who have rotated through Iraq.

Selective filtering. I've seen many stories on the heroic efforts of our troops. Unlike Vietnam, these guys are still true heroes to the folks here at home. I traveled in February and had troops come by in the airport while waiting on flights or making connections. To a person, they were applauded. Many offerred to buy their lunch. It was wonderful to see the support still so strong.

THE DEMS control MSM media and it has been one 24/7/365 campaign to undermine the war to regain political power. The Generals using their military positions is just the next step.

Funny, but I thought that was the old media that had little impact. For something that has become irrelevant, we seem to have a lot of worry over it.

But that being said, that same MSM has become the home to Limbaugh and Hannity. Limbaugh is carried on the ABC owned and operated stations in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, San Francisco. He's carried on the CBS owned and operated stations in Saint Louis. He was in Pittsburg, but that changed when his syndicator switched the affiliate to a station owned by the syndicators parent. It was ABC that gave him his home for his nationwide rollout.

Hannity IS syndicated by the MSM (ABC) as well on virtually all thier owned and operateds. Now Mark Levin is becoming rolled out on those same ABC MSM owned stations. ABC in San Francisco has a station dedicated to conserative talk.

If they are so interested in controlling us through disinformation, then why do they work so hard for Limbaugh and Hannity to succeed. These guys are the heavy weights and could do it on their own, but it's the MSM that supports and pushes them as a product every day.

Don't forget the mileage from the Body Armor shortage either. It didn't exist after 8 Clinton defense budgets and these Generals were responsible for preparing requirements during the annual budget drills. Apparently, they were too busy flying around like rocks stars in Gulfstream V's to recognize the need for armor.

Funny, but I thought the budget was set by the Congress. At least that's the story when Reagan couldn't get balanced budgets. Same for W. Seems we had Republicans in control of the purse strings since 95 or 6 of Clinton's 8 years. And remember, our side was promoting the peace dividend after Reagan and Bush I doing such a good job bringing communism to its knees. We were told that we didn't need that type of military any more. That was our side speaking.

60 posted on 04/16/2006 3:13:20 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: joesbucks

I feel as though I've been Clockwerked Orange by the 24/7 NEGATIVE coverage over the past 4 years. Apparently you feel it has been fine and the conduct of the Dems has been responsible. Different Opinions Joe.

BTW way I did a few Budget drills in Military. The requirements percolate up through the various forces and syscoms. The Flags and Secretaries prioritize the requirements which go into the budget. The funding issue is a civilian leadership one. Bottomline...If the Flags don't make it a high priority it won't get funded


62 posted on 04/16/2006 5:15:46 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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