Posted on 04/14/2006 9:01:33 AM PDT by neverdem
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April 14, 2006, 9:19 a.m. No Illegal Alien Will be Left Behind The politics of immigration.
This weeks demonstrations and marches by illegal immigrants and their supporters pose an interesting question: Who were they directed against?
Not the Democrats or the semi-organized Left. Democrats strongly backed the marches which were actually organized by the usual hard-Left suspects responsible for the antiwar and anti-Bush campaigns ANSWER, and so on.
Well, then, they must have been directed against the GOP, corporate America, and the establishment? Not so. The White House also supports the marches. President Bush took time out while talking to students at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies to praise the marchers for expressing discontent democratically.
Much of corporate America goes along some businesses closed down to allow their Hispanic workers to participate. And all over the U.S. schools are giving their pupils credits for playing truant in order to show approval of law-breaking and open borders.
Those senators who favored the misnamed compromise immigration reform, now stalled, loudly express the hope that the marches will change the minds of their recalcitrant colleagues in both House and Senate. And the media, fondly recalling its glorious days in the post-1968 revolution, almost salivates over the prospect that these demonstrations are the harbinger of a new multicultural political movement that would revive the moribund Left.
So I repeat the question: Who are these demonstrations against?
In the first instance they are self-evidently directed against most congressional Republicans (supported by a discreet minority of Democrats) who oppose the legislation supported by all of the above and who want to enforce border security without either a guest-worker program or a massive amnesty for illegals. The marchers are hoping to morally impress or intimidate (take your pick) these legislators into accepting a slightly different version of the compromise when Congress returns from recess.
But the legislators themselves are marching to a different drummer namely, the strong skepticism about the immigration compromise as revealed in the opinion polls. Almost all polls have shown over years that about two thirds of the voters favor lower immigration levels overall, and are increasingly worried about impact of immigration on both economy and society. They are sometimes prepared to go along with highly moderate versions of guest-worker and amnesty as part of much tougher enforcement legislation, on the lines of the House bill proposed by Rep. Jim Sensebrenner provided that the illegals meet a number of strict standards learning English, paying stiff fines and back taxes, returning home to join the line for entry, and so on. But they are in general firmly opposed to illegal immigration, want to see it stopped, and worry about its impact on lower-paid Americans and the social fabric of American society.
So the marches are, in effect, directed against the voters since they stand behind the Republican legislators blocking the bill. If one listens carefully to the rhetoric of the marchers and their organizers, they deny the right of Congress and the voters to control immigration, to expel illegal immigrants, or even to place any conditions on their remaining the conditions that the voters insist on as the minimum for any genuine compromise.
Such rhetoric comes under two headings. The first holds that the illegals are already Americans with the rights of American cities since any distinction between citizens and foreigners is suspect as xenophobic or racist. The second is that the Americans are the real foreigners since they invaded America, stole it from the Indians and Amerindians, drew their own illegal borders across it, and now seek to criminalize the original inhabitants.
These two positions plainly contradict each other. Neither is likely to appeal to the voters. But the second is much more repellent to ordinary Americans than the first. The demo organizers, who understand politics, have told the marchers to wave only American flags and to refrain from separatist slogans and placards. So it is very significant that many marchers in some cases most have ignored this advice, waving Mexican flags and anti-Yanqui placards.
Even if they succeed in intimidating Congress, therefore, they are alienating the voters still further. Recent polls indeed show far more voters hostile than favorable to the marchers.
So the division represented in these marches pits the marchers, backed by the White House, both party leaderships, corporate America, and the organized multicultural Left, against the voters, supported by a narrow majority of Republicans and a small minority of Democrats in Congress. If Congress sticks with its current stalemate and the legislation stalls, the issue will go into cold storage for two or four years i.e., between now and next two national elections. If the marchers succeed in pressuring Congress to revive the bill, however, then we are all in for a long hot political summer.
In the streets the marchers will try to keep up their momentum by continual demonstrations that will further alarm voters. In Congress the details of the legislation will become better known as the legislators debate it and those details will alarm the voters far more than any demonstration.
As Senator Jeff Sessions has already shown in his legislative examination, the bill would cost the American taxpayer tens of billions of dollars in extra food aid and Medicaid costs alone. It would grant a green card and path to citizenship to any illegal alien who had been employed for any three of the last five years in the U.S. As Sessions who has led the opposition to the measure with a calm reason that contrasts sharply with the emotional rhetoric of its advocates commented mordantly, no illegal alien will be left behind.
Thats an understatement. Other critics, looking at the fine print, have pointed out that bill would not prohibit rapists and other violent criminals from getting amnesty and U.S. citizenship. A former immigration advisor to the Attorney General, Kris Kobach, added in the New York Post that it would replace all the existing immigration judges with lawyers drawn from the notoriously pro-illegal immigration bar thus ensuring that any borderline case would be decided in favor of the illegal alien.
As these details emerge into the light of publicity and thanks to interested bloggers such as Mickey Kaus and Michelle Malkin, they cannot be suppressed by mainstream-media indifference the voters are likely to turn against not only the compromise bill but also against the politicians most associated with it.
John McCain, for instance, was recently booed by a labor-union meeting over the issue. How will he fare in the 2008 presidential primaries if he remains the Republican face on this bill throughout the summer? Is President Bush likely to recover from his present time of troubles if his only major new domestic program is granting amnesty to illegals? And how will the cool-to-chilly Hillary Clinton who in the last few months flip-flopped on the issue of illegal immigration first denouncing it and later denouncing House bill opposing it cope with a long hot summer of genuine public debate?
Keeping the debate closed in two weeks looks like good horse sense for these and other ambitious pols. If they decide to support the marchers, however, the frustrated voters themselves may start marching too. And since the voters can march but the marchers cant vote, that would finally be game, set and match to the people.
John O'Sullivan is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute in Washington and editor-at-large of National Review. He is currently writing a book on Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul II.
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The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This Huntington article definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:
Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, the president's chief Senate supporter in changing the Civil Service protections in the bill, acknowledged that Democrats had written 95 percent of the bill and acknowledged the paradoxical role of small-government Republicans like him in advocating for such a large department.
And which party is now making it useless.
Bush: Democrat killed immigration bill
In private as well as public, Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who heads the party's campaign effort, said they did not want to expose rank-and-file Democrats to votes that would force them to choose between border security and immigrant rights, only to wind up with legislation that would be eviscerated in future negotiations with the House, which has passed a bill limited to boosting border security.
MEGA DITTO BUMP!
Nonsequitur. The president can, as a matter of politics, make such a statement without "supporting" the marches themselves. It's certainly better than riots.
It is quite certain, moreover, that the WH did not "support" the marches in any material way, like the DNC and the usual suspects did.
Did he praise the Minutemen for acting "democratically"?
No, he called them vigilantes.
Our President supports the right of criminals to protest openly in our streets, and spits on the citizen who tries to stop this madness.
IMO, his deliberate failure to close the borders after 9-11 is an impeachable offense.
"It's certainly better than riots."
It's highly unlikely that any politically acceptable attempt at resolving the problem of illegal aliens will satisfy these marchers, who appear determined to intimidate through sheer numbers, with the unspoken threat of violence implicit in those numbers. The end result will be rioting, either way. So, it's not an either-or situation. As best I can tell, riots are virtually assured at this point.
Still, he does raise the interesting question of who these marches are against. I suppose that depends on which "marchers" one has in mind -- I suspect that the organizers of the marches have an entirely different agenda from that of the people who actually turned out.
And I'd be willing to bet that the motives of those on the streets can't be classified in any one way, either.
That could be -- in which case it's a matter of "bad" vs. "worse" options.
However, I think the problem essentially takes care of itself if you can remove the financial incentives (e.g., welfare) for those who are here without working; and for those who are here to work, a straightforward registration and taxation will take care of things.
David M. Bresnahan
April 1, 2006
NewsWithViews.com
Dear President Bush:
I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and
extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to
walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to
make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.
I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.
So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care for my entire family.
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.
3. All government forms need to be printed in English.
4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.
5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.
6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.
7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.
8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.
9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.
13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.
I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.
However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.
Thank you so much for your kind help.
Sincerely,
David M. Bresnahan
David M. Bresnahan has over 30 years of experience as an award-winning journalist, broadcaster, radio station owner, talk show host, and business owner. David has been a prominent writer for many Internet newspapers.
(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")
...and most of the demonstrations were TAXPAYER FUNDED. I wonder how much tax money goes to the Minutemen Project.
Pay your taxes tomorrow - if you don't, we'll arrest you for tax fraud (which is more than we'll do to immigrants breaking the law).
>>>>If Congress sticks with its current stalemate and the legislation stalls, the issue will go into cold storage for two or four years i.e., between now and next two national elections. If the marchers succeed in pressuring Congress to revive the bill, however, then we are all in for a long hot political summer.
Lets hope this issue doesn't go into "cold storage". Lets have it settled NOW! Either we control our borders, enforce employer sanctions and stop allowing illegal aliens to undermine our employment system and welfare process, or we grant them all amnesty and move on towards the end of America as we've know it.
Let me get this straight. We have criminals who invaded our country and who are protesting in mass for rights. And, our president is pleased that they are expressing discontent democratically and is pleased that they at least are not rioting.
What a pathetic mess!
Yes, please do get it straight. O'Sullivan is being dishonest when he implies that the "support" in Bush's comments is the same as the real and material support provided by the left.
His overarching point is interesting; but his discussion is based on false assumptions.
How will that be determined? Will they ask the worker? Do they really expect that, faced with deportation, any of them will say "I have only been here 3 months"?
ping
This is a thorny one -- the matching up of illegals and employers is an example of the free market at work. Is your point that business owners should only hire government-approved employees?
I'd argue that this facet of illegal immigration is an unintended consequence of our welfare system -- employers need cheap labor for grunt work; Americans can do better on welfare than they can doing hard physical labor; and so Americans turn to a labor source that meets their needs at a price they want to pay. (And I'll guess that the price required to lure Americans into those jobs would be significantly higher than the welfare they're currently collecting.)
Is it really illegal immigration that undermines the employment system, or is it something else?
This is all part of a globalisation strategy for America's future. If we don't address it now, open borders, illegal immigration and amnesty will eventually lead to the chaos and anarchy. The perfect set of circumstances that communists and other totalitarians feed off of. America is on the wrong track and in the end, we'll see an end to the American way of life. This isn't doom and gloom rhetoric either. Its straight talk.
I hope we can please him as well by our absence on election day (or 3rd party votes)
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