“No Illegal Alien Will be Left Behind” - The politics of immigration.

NRO ^ | April 14, 2006 | John O’Sullivan

[neverdem]

>The Hispanic Challenge (To America) A MUST READ Samuel Huntington (Long But Good)

The Mexicans are unlike previous immigrants. This Huntington article definitely needs to be read by everyone at least once! It should be linked on pertinent immigration threads. Here's an interesting link about Samuel Huntington:

"Strangely enough, despite the fact that he was buddies with Henry Kissinger at Harvard, he is registered as a member of the Democratic Party, and has written foreign policy speeches for Adlai Stevenson, Hubert Humphrey, and Jimmy Carter."

THREATS AND RESPONSES: LEGISLATION; SENATE VOTES, 90-9, TO SET UP A HOMELAND SECURITY DEPT. GEARED TO FIGHT TERRORISM

Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, the president's chief Senate supporter in changing the Civil Service protections in the bill, acknowledged that Democrats had written 95 percent of the bill and acknowledged the paradoxical role of small-government Republicans like him in advocating for such a large department.

And which party is now making it useless.

Bush: Democrat killed immigration bill

In private as well as public, Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., who heads the party's campaign effort, said they did not want to expose rank-and-file Democrats to votes that would force them to choose between border security and immigrant rights, only to wind up with legislation that would be eviscerated in future negotiations with the House, which has passed a bill limited to boosting border security.

Harry Reid: now and then

Path to Deportation Can Start With a Traffic Stop

[conservativecorner]

MEGA DITTO BUMP!

[r9etb]

The White House also supports the marches. President Bush took time out while talking to students at Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies to praise the marchers for expressing “discontent” democratically.

Nonsequitur. The president can, as a matter of politics, make such a statement without "supporting" the marches themselves. It's certainly better than riots.

It is quite certain, moreover, that the WH did not "support" the marches in any material way, like the DNC and the usual suspects did.

[JamesP81]

Perhaps these demonstrators will inadvertently renew the American civic spirit and cause some of us common folk to step up and run for office. That's what the Founders intended anyway.

If my rep or senator does something stupid on immigration I might just have to run against him.

[bordergal]

Did he praise the Minutemen for acting "democratically"?

No, he called them vigilantes.

Our President supports the right of criminals to protest openly in our streets, and spits on the citizen who tries to stop this madness.

IMO, his deliberate failure to close the borders after 9-11 is an impeachable offense.

[RegulatorCountry]

"It's certainly better than riots."

It's highly unlikely that any politically acceptable attempt at resolving the problem of illegal aliens will satisfy these marchers, who appear determined to intimidate through sheer numbers, with the unspoken threat of violence implicit in those numbers. The end result will be rioting, either way. So, it's not an either-or situation. As best I can tell, riots are virtually assured at this point.

[r9etb]

Whatever. The point is that O'Sullivan throws around the word "support" in this article like it's the same for all involved. It's not. I usually like John O'Sullivan, but his take in this article on who "supports" the marches, is not honest.

Still, he does raise the interesting question of who these marches are against. I suppose that depends on which "marchers" one has in mind -- I suspect that the organizers of the marches have an entirely different agenda from that of the people who actually turned out.

And I'd be willing to bet that the motives of those on the streets can't be classified in any one way, either.

[r9etb]

It's highly unlikely that any politically acceptable attempt at resolving the problem of illegal aliens will satisfy these marchers, who appear determined to intimidate through sheer numbers, with the unspoken threat of violence implicit in those numbers.

That could be -- in which case it's a matter of "bad" vs. "worse" options.

However, I think the problem essentially takes care of itself if you can remove the financial incentives (e.g., welfare) for those who are here without working; and for those who are here to work, a straightforward registration and taxation will take care of things.

[Lucky9teen]

David M. Bresnahan
April 1, 2006
NewsWithViews.com

Dear President Bush:

I'm about to plan a little trip with my family and
extended family, and I would like to ask you to assist me. I'm going to
walk across the border from the U.S. into Mexico, and I need to
make a few arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration quotas and laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do here.

So, would you mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that I'm on my way over? Please let him know that I will be expecting the following:

1. Free medical care for my entire family.

2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for all services I might need, whether I use them or not.

3. All government forms need to be printed in English.

4. I want my kids to be taught by English-speaking teachers.

5. Schools need to include classes on American culture and history.

6. I want my kids to see the American flag flying on the top of the flag pole at their school with the Mexican flag flying lower down.

7. Please plan to feed my kids at school for both breakfast and lunch.

8. I will need a local Mexican driver's license so I can get easy access to government services.

9. I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to learn local traffic laws.

10. In case one of the Mexican police officers does not get the memo from Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all police officers speak English.

11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag from my house top, put flag decals on my car, and have a gigantic celebration on July 4th. I do not want any complaints or negative comments from the locals.

12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes, and don't enforce any labor laws or tax laws.

13. Please tell all the people in the country to be extremely nice and never say a critical word about me, or about the strain I might place on the economy.

I know this is an easy request because you already do all these things for all the people who come to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely.

However, if he gives you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Sincerely,

David M. Bresnahan


David M. Bresnahan has over 30 years of experience as an award-winning journalist, broadcaster, radio station owner, talk show host, and business owner. David has been a prominent writer for many Internet newspapers.

[goldstategop]

Any politician who votes for amnesty is going to have a short political career. Its time to stand up for America.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

[Tzimisce]

...and most of the demonstrations were TAXPAYER FUNDED. I wonder how much tax money goes to the Minutemen Project.

Pay your taxes tomorrow - if you don't, we'll arrest you for tax fraud (which is more than we'll do to immigrants breaking the law).

[Reagan Man]

Nice summation by John O'Sullivan.

>>>>If Congress sticks with its current stalemate and the legislation stalls, the issue will go into cold storage for two or four years — i.e., between now and next two national elections. If the marchers succeed in pressuring Congress to revive the bill, however, then we are all in for a long hot political summer.

Lets hope this issue doesn't go into "cold storage". Lets have it settled NOW! Either we control our borders, enforce employer sanctions and stop allowing illegal aliens to undermine our employment system and welfare process, or we grant them all amnesty and move on towards the end of America as we've know it.

[MBB1984]

Let me get this straight. We have criminals who invaded our country and who are protesting in mass for rights. And, our president is pleased that they are expressing discontent democratically and is pleased that they at least are not rioting.

What a pathetic mess!

[r9etb]

Let me get this straight.

Yes, please do get it straight. O'Sullivan is being dishonest when he implies that the "support" in Bush's comments is the same as the real and material support provided by the left.

His overarching point is interesting; but his discussion is based on false assumptions.

[Personal Responsibility]

It would grant a green card and path to citizenship to any illegal alien who had been employed for any three of the last five years in the U.S.

How will that be determined? Will they ask the worker? Do they really expect that, faced with deportation, any of them will say "I have only been here 3 months"?

[DumpsterDiver]

ping

[r9etb]

stop allowing illegal aliens to undermine our employment system

This is a thorny one -- the matching up of illegals and employers is an example of the free market at work. Is your point that business owners should only hire government-approved employees?

I'd argue that this facet of illegal immigration is an unintended consequence of our welfare system -- employers need cheap labor for grunt work; Americans can do better on welfare than they can doing hard physical labor; and so Americans turn to a labor source that meets their needs at a price they want to pay. (And I'll guess that the price required to lure Americans into those jobs would be significantly higher than the welfare they're currently collecting.)

Is it really illegal immigration that undermines the employment system, or is it something else?

[Reagan Man]

Before 1965, when the Feds did a better job of controlling both legal and illegal immigration, American's built a great affluent middle class. In the last 20 years that middle class has been decimated. What has happened since 1965, has been an undermining of the US employment system by cheap foreign labor. The IRCA of 1986 exacerbated this problem. Cheap labor has become a dominate force in many aspects of American business. What we've seen over the last 20 years amounts to a mass invasion of America by illegal aliens. I don't know what else to call it. Matching up illegal workers with employers is not part of any legal free market system I know of.

This is all part of a globalisation strategy for America's future. If we don't address it now, open borders, illegal immigration and amnesty will eventually lead to the chaos and anarchy. The perfect set of circumstances that communists and other totalitarians feed off of. America is on the wrong track and in the end, we'll see an end to the American way of life. This isn't doom and gloom rhetoric either. Its straight talk.

[ears_to_hear]

Let me get this straight. We have criminals who invaded our country and who are protesting in mass for rights. And, our president is pleased that they are expressing discontent democratically and is pleased that they at least are not rioting.

I hope we can please him as well by our absence on election day (or 3rd party votes)