Mexico is our largest source of imported oil - 1.7M barrels per day.
Currently, the policy aim of many posters here seems to be to get as many of the countries supplying our energy needs as pissed at us as possible - a project, if it succeeds, which will eventually lead us to discover if we can ran our cars on bile.
We are a huge net energy importer, we have an society and and economy highly dependent on a reliable supply of reasonably priced imported oil, we are doing almost nothing to change this situation, and now we should do our best get ourselves in a pissing match with our largest supplier?
IMO, that's just nuts.
Maybe it's just me, but if we have the people, shouldn't we also have the land that goes with them?
I propose we just march across, raise our flag, and tell the people, "quit running, you made it, welcome to the USA" and them hand them all IRS 1040 forms, in Spanish. Then, we start pumping all of that Mexican oil across the boarder for zero $$$'s.
I understand wanting a better life. I want the same thing. What would make my life better is gas at $1 a gallon.
(Bush)"...there is a fantastic technology brewing -- I say brewing, it's kind of a catch on words here -- (laughter) -- called ethanol. I mean, it's -- there's a lot of folks in the Midwest driving -- using what's called E85 gasoline.
It means 85 percent of the fuel they're putting in their car is derived from corn. This is exciting news for those of us worried about addiction to oil. You grow a lot of corn, you're less dependent on foreign sources of energy. Using corn for fuel helps our farmers and helps our foreign policy at the same time. It's a good deal. (Huh? More Illegals?
The problem is we need more sources of ethanol. We need more -- to use different products than just corn. Got to save some corn to eat, of course. (Laughter.) Corn flakes without corn is kind of -- (laughter.)
And so one of the interesting things happening in this laboratory and around the country is what's called the development of cellulostic ethanol. That's a fancy word for using switch grass, corn -- wood products, stuff that you generally allow to decompose, to become a source of energy."
Foot Note: We'll probably need more illegals to harvest the corn and "stuff", wink, wink.
nice, simplistic regurgitation of the conventional wisdom of the MSM, however if you haven't noticed that THEY ALREADY HATE OUR GUTS AND WANT TO KILL US then you simply haven't been paying attention.
We are a huge net energy importer, we have an society and and economy highly dependent on a reliable supply of reasonably priced imported oil, we are doing almost nothing to change this situation, and now we should do our best get ourselves in a pissing match with our largest supplier?
We are the largest customer of all of our energy suppliers. Under your scenario if we enforce our immigration laws and secure our borders, as any sovereign nation must in order to remain a sovereign nation, then they'll "get mad" and, in a fit of anger, cut off our oil supply. Fine. Let Mexico, Hugo Chavez and all of the Islamic states cut us off. Oil will drop to $2 barrel within 4 days because the world market cannot absorb the amount that we consume. Most of them survive on the immediate revenue stream of their oil sales so their economies will tank faster than ours will. All of their governments will be overthrown and given the Mussolini treatment within short order. Then oil will go back up to $60 a barrel and each of the new governments will rush back to us in order to be the first to get our business back. After the cut throat competition to get our business oil will probably settle in at about $15 a barrel.
Oh, and the enviro wackos will be hiding from pissed off voters as Congress opens up ANWR and all of our coastal waters, including the outer shelf, in a voice vote of both houses. Oh, and the government will authroize the immediate start on 100 oil refineries and 100 nuclear power plants around the nation.
Push comes to shove we can TAKE their oil. They can't take our productivity or replace our trade with them.
They need us more than we need them.
Now, my scenario is WAY overwrought, but no more so than what you implied. They can't cut us off, which is how I read what you said, and they know it. If Mexico (and Venezuela "in sympathy) cut us off there would be others to sell us oil to replace it. The market can't absorb what they sell to us without causing the price to drop drastically. We'd probably pay a short term price in the per barrel cost, but it would settle out and probably drop. If we do seal our borders and find a way send back the illegal Mexicans there is no way Mexico can absorb all of them back into their economy and they could never survive the loss of the money they send home. They'll have to cut a deal on our terms.
It's Poker time and we've got a much better hand than they do, and we both know it. They're trying to bluff our sheeple. I'm not buying. I say raise.
Are you in the habit of bending over?
Or do you just kneel?
It is a two way street, and they are not exactly in a position infrastructure wise to ship the oil we currently PURCHASE...they don't GIVE it to us, after all...to China. It is their big source of filthy Gringo greenbacks, and they do NOT want to lose that. Let them be pissed at us for being rightfully pissed at them. I for one am sick of GWB licking Mexican ****, while screwing us.
And just who is NOT doing anything? Not enough, fast enough, perhaps; but things ARE changing slowly in the coal, coal-gassification, gas drilling, nuclear plant construction, and other fronts.
Oh, and how much EXTRA oil per day do millions of illegals eat up? A 5% reduction in population = a 5% reduction in consumption. How's THAT for "doing something" about reducing energy importation?