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Fossil Find Is Missing Link in Human Evolution, Scientists Say
National Geographic News ^ | April 13, 2006 | John Roach

Posted on 04/13/2006 12:18:35 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow

When the famous skeleton of an early human ancestor known as Lucy was discovered in Africa in the 1970s, scientists asked: Where did she come from?

Now, fossils found in the same region are providing solid answers, researchers have announced.

Lucy is a 3.5-foot-tall (1.1-meter-tall) adult skeleton that belongs to an early human ancestor, or hominid, known as Australopithecus afarensis.

The species lived between 3 million and 3.6 million years ago and is widely considered an ancestor of modern humans.

The new fossils are from the most primitive species of Australopithecus, known as Australopithecus anamensis. The remains date to about 4.1 million years ago, according to Tim White, a biologist at the University of California, Berkeley.

White co-directed the team that discovered the new fossils in Ethiopia (map) in a region of the Afar desert known as the Middle Awash.

The team says the newly discovered fossils are a no-longer-missing link between early and later forms of Australopithecus and to a more primitive hominid known as Ardipithecus.

"What the new discovery does is very nicely fill this gap between the earliest of the Lucy species at 3.6 million years and the older [human ancestor] Ardipithecus ramidus, which is dated at 4.4 million years," White said.

The new fossil find consists mainly of jawbone fragments, upper and lower teeth, and a thigh bone.

The fossils are described in today's issue of the journal Nature.

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According to White, the discovery supports the hypothesis that Lucy was a direct descendent of Australopithecus anamensis.

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To: Conservative Texan Mom

My average and mean age is 65.


121 posted on 04/13/2006 3:39:21 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Alter Kaker
I sometimes wonder if anyone ever looks at the wording in Genesis

Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds."
and
"Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds".

Job 38 is an enlightening passage as to the scope of God's power. I don't get the need to restrict him with our limited understanding.
122 posted on 04/13/2006 3:39:33 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Tribune7
Challenge him on his claimed area of expertise -- biochemistry or medicine. Can you do that?

I already have.

123 posted on 04/13/2006 3:42:20 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Ignorance is curable, but the afflicted has to want to be cured.)
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To: Ichneumon; ejroth
Prepare for personal attacks by the zealots. ...he said, throwing a personal attack himself ("zealots").

Ichy, that's a good one to let hang out there for a bit --- but what is the comment and who is the person that I am attacking in my warning to ejroth?

124 posted on 04/13/2006 3:45:31 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: js1138

Grenada or Poland?


125 posted on 04/13/2006 3:45:48 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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To: Ichneumon

There you go. Let's see what he says.


126 posted on 04/13/2006 3:46:26 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: jec41
My average and mean age is 65.

I'm sorry, but I think that means your current age is 130. And I thought I was the only guy over 115 on FR...

127 posted on 04/13/2006 3:46:50 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: ejroth
Good post! Metmom came up with a similar analogy.

I have often wondered this. If I was told a story of a family, then asked to arrange pictures of that family according to the story, how might it differ from arranging the pictures without knowing the story.

I don't dispute the evidence, but I do wonder if it is interpreted correctly. That's why I ask so many questions.
128 posted on 04/13/2006 3:47:06 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: furball4paws
Grenada or Poland?

Undoubtedly a graduate of the illustrious Hollywood Upstairs Medical College, Class of 1982.

129 posted on 04/13/2006 3:48:11 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: jec41

I went through my mean age about 20 years ago. No I've entered the age of Mellowness :-)


130 posted on 04/13/2006 3:48:41 PM PDT by furball4paws (Awful Offal)
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placemarker


131 posted on 04/13/2006 3:51:43 PM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life....")
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To: ejroth
Quoting with added emphasis: The Theory of Evolution has always been and will always be a theory and one that lacks good evidence .

It seems to me that this a statement that says "my mind is closed forever on this". "Always will be..." a very strange way to 'think' that new evidence might appear or that you might be open to a new idea.

132 posted on 04/13/2006 3:52:19 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious)
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To: Ichneumon
Challenge him on his claimed area of expertise -- biochemistry or medicine. Can you do that? . . . I already have.

I take that back. Where is the challenge to biochemcial or medical expertise in Post 113?

133 posted on 04/13/2006 3:52:45 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Sofa King
This is second time I've heard about this "DNA's missing link" stuff. Is this the birth of a new talking point?

Unless we have a complete genome for every individual living thing that ever existed, we will always have missing links. and the more links we find, the more links will be missing.

The quesiion I like to see addressed is, which explanatory hypothesis expects to find intermediates, and which explanatory hypothesis has a basis for predicting the features of new fossil finds?

134 posted on 04/13/2006 3:54:38 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: Alter Kaker

Is the timeline determined by comparing it to other fossils, or by the strata in which it was found, or both, or something altogether different?
Thanks


135 posted on 04/13/2006 3:57:37 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Tribune7
Try post 120

why don't you explain to us what exactly is flawed in the findings and methods by which, say, endogenous retroviruses are used to validate evolutionary relationships?

136 posted on 04/13/2006 3:58:18 PM PDT by js1138 (~()):~)>)
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To: Alter Kaker

You are correct, I stated it wrong. My curent age is 65, I expect a total of 130.


137 posted on 04/13/2006 4:00:51 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom
If I was told a story of a family, then asked to arrange pictures of that family according to the story, how might it differ from arranging the pictures without knowing the story.

We know the order. Radioactive dating and stratigraphy give it to us.

We also have the entire genomes for a large number of grandchildren. From that, we can infer a great deal about their ancestors.

138 posted on 04/13/2006 4:01:35 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: jec41
You are correct, I stated it wrong. My curent age is 65, I expect a total of 130.

So does that mean I'm the only 120 year old on FR? Now I'm disappointed.

139 posted on 04/13/2006 4:02:33 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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To: furball4paws
I went through my mean age about 20 years ago. No I've entered the age of Mellowness :-)

Its much less stressful.

140 posted on 04/13/2006 4:03:50 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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