George Allen for President? (vanity)

http://www.georgeallen.com/site/c.hgITL5PKJtH/b.1434575/k.BEAC/Home.htm ^

[HHKrepublican_2]

I was just looking at Allens website for his senate re-election bid, his philosophy on Government is near perfect!! He has an all American family and his wife just has that first lady look to her which complements George's Presidential leadership 'vibe' Any FReepers know more about allen? Is his name being tossed around for 2008?

The Allen Family (left to right): Forrest, Brooke, Susan, George and Tyler

[Ligeia]

Why worry about the budget..the borders,,,articulating a conservative vision .....the WOT

The issues you list are vitally important. We were being asked about Allen's positions on the moral issues and were responding to those questions. No one meant to imply that the areas you list aren't critical.

His 2006 re-election website was just launched this week and I'm hoping his staff will continue to add more detailed information regarding policy. You should find some helpful information there regarding stances on issues nonetheless.

As regards immigration, you may have seen this article posted earlier: George Allen Splits with Bush on Immigration .

Another source of information is his U.S. Senate site

[Beagle8U]

"As far as I'm concerned having a wide libertarian streak is being conservative. Keeping the government small and off our backs ...unlike a segment of FR's who call themselves conservatives but in reality are obsessed with gays and abortion and care much less about spending and the obscene size of our government If Allen has a libertarian streak well good for him."

Who was it that you were pushing for a few weeks ago?

Was it Rudy or McCain? It was one of those dingbats.

You don't like Allen, fine, but explain what the hell it is you want in a candidate?

If you are wanting the Republican nominee to embrace queer marriage you will be out of luck.

[Old_Mil]

...likely 2008 presidential candidate to back an "enforcement first" approach to border security.

The above is quoted from the article you cited. The problem here is that we need a nominee who is going to take an "enforcement only" approach to border security, not an "enforcement first" approach. 27% of the prison population consists of illegal aliens compared to 3% of the general population. If we ship illegals back home only to wink, nod, and let them return as "guest workers", we've accomplished nothing.

[linda_22003]

As I said, both very attractive; just very different types. I really don't know anything about Mrs. Allen as a person - her interests, causes, etc.

[Corin Stormhands]

But I guess y'all will get his mind right. Why worry about the budget..the borders,,,articulating a conservative vision .....the WOT ....when there are queers out there.

'zat why you've been pushing Rudy all over FR?

[Corin Stormhands]

She is as graceful and charming as she is beautiful.

And yes, I am biased. ;-)

[beeler]

He did, in fact, support the "drug handout." Unfortunately, there is not a single Republican in the Senate who is not a RINO.

[beeler]

They gave McCain an 83? I wouldn't trust their rating system as far as I could throw it if that is the case.

[Corin Stormhands]

He did, in fact, support the "drug handout."

And in doing so voted against, Bayh, Biden, Boxer, Byrd, Cantwell, Clinton, Daschle, Dodd, Durbin, Edwards, Feingold, Kennedy...and a host of others.

That's not a defense of the bill. I didn't like it either.

But the fact is that train was rolling through. I think we got the best of the available (bad) options.

[beeler]

I'm done playing around with the best of two evils. Yall can have at it.

[Corin Stormhands]

If you don't understand that politics is all about give and take, you really shouldn't be involved.

Demanding all or nothing usually results in getting nothing.

It's your choice. But you need to know that's how it works.

[quantim]

Yes, and we're supposed to swallow a candidate from that pathetic body? Not a chance.

[satan]

Wishy-washy on immigration. Depends which way the wind is blowing. Supported him till recently but he's become a politician - an example of the need for term-limits.

[hershey]

Yes, he's been mentioned, discussed, talked about, but not seen or heard nearly often enough on TV. George has to energize his campaign.

[Corin Stormhands]

George has to be re-elected to the Senate first. His announcement tour was this week.

[beeler]

I understand that politics involves give and take, it's just that I'm not willing to support a candidate who's willing to sacrifice or "give" away the core principles of conservatism just to get power. The Republicans kept telling us, "just wait until we get control of the senate (or house, or white house, or the courts) then we'll start being conservative." Well, the Republicans control everything, and they're not being conservative. The conclusion I draw from this is that the Republican party is not a conservative party. Our country is more socialistic now, than ever before. Obviously, the Republicans don't have the willpower to turn this trend around, in fact, almost everything they've done has furthered socialism. I, and many other conservatives, are just sick of this. We're at our breaking point, and this year, the Republicans are going to understand.

[quantim]

But the fact is that train was rolling through.

Uh, it's called a RINO train.  Of course those nimwits could vote against it if they knew it had the votes to pass, this isn't new.  Furthermore, regarding your 'give and take' excuse for poor leadership is what the senate is all about.  That's why they don't make good presidential candidates.

[TheForceOfOne]

I think Newt would make a good VP. I know some will say he has too much baggage, but look at the opposition and tell me which one of them doesn't have baggage? Hillary, Kerry, Dean?????

The Dem's will be forced by their whacked out base to put someone like Dean on the ticket assuring their lose to the Republicans.

Newt is pro-border enforcement, a major issue, if not the primary issue in the '08 elections, and I believe he would be for reigning in spending which has been a sore point with many Conservatives the last 6 years. I also do not believe he would cower in the WOT, the recent news story on Newt was debunked on Hannity & The Crypt Keeper in recent days.

[quantim]

I heard on NPR last night of all places, John Fund from the WSJ and another republican consultant discussing this very topic. It was what I wanted to hear as I was beginning to think I was the only one who saw what is coming, at least around here.

They were adamant about dems picking up seats because conservatives ARE NOT going to support RINOs (they called them moderates) as they won't support them. They stated the the republicans have all the power but have abandoned their principles that got them there in the first place.

They essentially said the WH and the party has got 6-8 to turn it around or say goodbye.

They musta' said Bush is a republican but governs like a liberal a dozen times.

[Corin Stormhands]

Well, the Republicans control everything, and they're not being conservative.

I agree. And we must hold their feet to the fire.

But the reality remains that this is still a two party system. Abandoning the GOP means that the RATS will win.

Maybe that's what needs to happen to wake up the Republicans. But I'm just not sure we'd ever recover from President Hillary.