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1 posted on 04/13/2006 8:12:36 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 04/13/2006 8:13:25 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
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Oh, geez. Brown's book is FICTION. Mother Goose is more factual.

I've accidently flipped to the Judas show a few times, but never can get through a few minutes before flipping channels again.


3 posted on 04/13/2006 8:19:10 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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It provides the means for Christianity’s detractors to debunk the historical Jesus, and it certainly sells books. Seven million copies of The Da Vinci Code is testimony to that.

Uh, dude, The Da Vinci Code is fiction. To get mad over that is like the Muslims getting mad over The Satanic Verses, minus the death threat.

4 posted on 04/13/2006 8:19:32 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Ping!


5 posted on 04/13/2006 8:19:47 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("I was in such a hurry to climb that tree, I punched a squirrel.")
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no surprise here as Jesus has been hated since he was born. To quote Jesus himself...

John 15:

18 If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.

19 If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

6 posted on 04/13/2006 8:20:04 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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i saw that show ... judas said that Jesus appeared as a kid during the last supper, told him that only judas was worthy of the eternal secrets among other oddities ... sounded like the DemUnderground existed around the year 200ad


7 posted on 04/13/2006 8:22:14 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (But even if he does not...)
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Christian pastors and theologians repeatedly rejected all forms of Gnosticism, until, by the middle of the third century, it had all but disappeared.

"Disappeared?" Is that what they call it when the Emporer Constantine slaughtered them all?
8 posted on 04/13/2006 8:22:54 AM PDT by MatD
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Well, it’s not a new discovery. This “new gospel” and the heresy it espouses—Gnosticism—were rejected as fiction by Christian leaders and the Church as early as 180 A.D.

Gnosticism was an attempt to add to Christianity an essentially Eastern worldview dressed up with Christian language. It was presented to the Roman world as the true Gospel—complete with endless mysteries that only those with secret knowledge could unravel. Many unsuspecting people were enthralled with Gnostic writings, particularly their sometimes gory and salacious initiation ceremonies. Christian pastors and theologians repeatedly rejected all forms of Gnosticism, until, by the middle of the third century, it had all but disappeared.

This is all I need to know.
The endless TV programs about the "Bermuda Triangle", "UFOs" and "Bigfoot", remind me of both the gullibility and persistence of moonbat subjects, and the large following that they enjoy.

My personal conviction is that we can't even unravel what happened, exactly, 100 years ago in our own culture and country and, yet, some are obsessed with finding "hidden" meaning or fact in long lost myths and fabrications.

Most of us are busy enough with our daily lives that we have no time for mischief. Others, obviously, have a lot more time than knowledge and good sense, and are forever digging up myths to "re-examine".
Contemporary Americans are mostly ignorant of the role that fabrications and negative propaganda played throughout history, primarily around the time of the Reformation. Just become familiar with the outrageously juvenile and primitive beliefs and gullibility of modern illiterate muslims, and you have a good grasp of what most of history has been like.

10 posted on 04/13/2006 8:25:33 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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Garbage like this just makes my faith stronger.


13 posted on 04/13/2006 8:29:38 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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As a Christian, I must say it is a complete embarrassment the way that Christians are threatened by a fictional book.

Dan Brown is forced to build a fortified fence around his Rye NH home because of hostilities and threats from fruitcakes over his book.

It's also embarrassing that most don't know the word Gospel has nothing to do with religion, it means "word" and nothing else.

My suggestion is to be secure in your faith and instead of making a ass of yourselves attacking writers of fiction and old documents that even NG acknowledged are without provenance.
16 posted on 04/13/2006 8:31:03 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Doing the job Americans will do, paying the taxes illegals don't pay.)
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the media is once again out to debunk historical Christianity

Fair enough given that they provide conservatives with yet another golden opportunity to plumb the depths of rabid barking moonbattyness in Old Media.

17 posted on 04/13/2006 8:31:19 AM PDT by Milhous (Sarcasm - the last refuge of an empty mind.)
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Jesus said it would have been better had Judas not even been born.........End of Story!


18 posted on 04/13/2006 8:31:30 AM PDT by Boanarges
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Where in the Bible is there the instruction for a canonical council to determine what should be in the Bible?


21 posted on 04/13/2006 8:35:33 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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It claims that Jesus secretly told Judas to betray Him; so Judas is really a good disciple.

I guess Judas lacked a good spokesman and press secretary.

37 posted on 04/13/2006 9:30:28 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Proud soldier in the American Army of Occupation..)
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I want ON your Chuck Colson ping list, please!


40 posted on 04/13/2006 9:34:30 AM PDT by freepertoo
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"The danger is that we have a biblically illiterate population."

To me, this is the most salient point that Colson makes.

If people were even aware of what is stated in the Bible, these wierd suppositions would never be able to see the light of day.

43 posted on 04/13/2006 9:44:32 AM PDT by nightdriver
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46 posted on 04/13/2006 10:00:07 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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Some have intimated that these writings reveal a plan that backfired when Jesus was killed. Not so… Jesus said he came to lay down his life for his sheep, that they might live. In fact the plan was in the works for a long, long time. Eph 1:4

The idea that Judas was “unsung and unrecognized hero” of the 12 apostles? Afraid not – Jesus called him the “son of perdition” and “the devil.”

Others talk about the inaccuracy of the traditional canon due to the idea that many recollections weren’t written down until sometimes hundreds of years after Jesus’ time.” They are unaware that scholars now agree most of the New Testament was written within 5 to 30 years of the resurrection. Certainly before the destruction of Jerusalem about 35 years post resurrection which wasn’t mentioned anywhere in the NT. Think about it; Paul quoted the writers of the gospels in the book of Acts and also mentions in the creed or “statement of belief” in 1 Cor 15 that over 500 people saw the risen savior and most were still alive at that time.

Happy Pesach!

47 posted on 04/13/2006 10:02:11 AM PDT by patriot_wes
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"unmasking an ancient heresy"
Well, are there any heresies which are not ancient? It is devilishly difficult to come up with something genuinely new.


55 posted on 04/13/2006 10:55:24 AM PDT by GSlob
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News Flash: There are oodles of ancient writing which purport to be accounts of Jesus and his original followers, but were rejected by the nascent Church and excluded from the canon which became the modern Bible.


57 posted on 04/13/2006 11:09:11 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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