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(Another)Retired US Iraq general demands Rumsfeld resign
http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=1835067 | April 12, 2006 | Reuters

Posted on 04/12/2006 4:18:07 PM PDT by ejdrapes

Retired US Iraq general demands Rumsfeld resign

WASHINGTON - A recently retired two-star general who just a year ago commanded a U.S. Army division in Iraq on Wednesday joined a small but growing list of former senior officers to call on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign.

"I believe we need a fresh start in the Pentagon. We need a leader who understands teamwork, a leader who knows how to build teams, a leader that does it without intimidation," Maj. Gen. John Batiste, who commanded the Germany-based 1st Infantry Division in Iraq, said in an interview on CNN.

In recent weeks, retired Marine Corps Lt. Gen. Gregory Newbold, Army Maj. Gen. Paul Eaton and Marine Corps Gen. Anthony Zinni all spoke out against Rumsfeld. This comes as opinion polls show eroding public support for the 3-year-old war in which about 2,360 U.S. troops have died.

"You know, it speaks volumes that guys like me are speaking out from retirement about the leadership climate in the Department of Defense," Batiste said.

"But when decisions are made without taking into account sound military recommendations, sound military decision making, sound planning, then we're bound to make mistakes."

Batiste, a West Point graduate who also served during the previous Gulf War, retired from the Army on November 1, 2005. While in Iraq, his division, nicknamed the Big Red One, was based in Tikrit, and it wrapped up a yearlong deployment in May 2005.

Critics have accused Rumsfeld of bullying senior military officers and disregarding their views. They often cite how Rumsfeld dismissed then-Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki's opinion a month before the 2003 invasion that occupying Iraq could require "several hundred thousand troops," not the smaller force Rumsfeld would send.

Many experts believe that the chaos that ensued and the insurgency that emerged just months later vindicated Shinseki's view.

Batiste told CNN "we've got the best military in the world, hands down, period." He did not say whether he felt the war was winnable.

'LACK OF SACRIFICE'

"Whether we agree or not with the war in Iraq, we are where we are, and we must succeed in this endeavor. Failure is frankly not an option," Batiste said.

Batiste said he was struck by the "lack of sacrifice and commitment on the part of the American people" to the war, with the exception of families with soldiers fighting in Iraq.

"I think that our executive and legislative branches of government have a responsibility to mobilize this country for war. They frankly have not done so. We're mortgaging our future, our children, $8 to $9 billion a month," he said, referring to the cost of the war.

He defined success in the war as "setting the Iraqi people up for self-reliance with their form of representative government that takes into account tribal, ethnic and religious differences that have always defined Iraqi society."

"Iraqis, frankly, in my experience, do not understand democracy. Nor do they understand their responsibilities for a free society," Batiste said.

Newbold, the military's top operations officer before the Iraq war, said in a Time magazine opinion piece on Sunday that he regretted having not more openly challenged U.S. leaders who took the United States into "an unnecessary war" in Iraq. Newbold encouraged officers still in the military to voice any doubts they have about the war.

On Tuesday, Marine Corps Gen. Pete Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, defended Rumsfeld from the criticism.

Rumsfeld said that "there's nothing wrong with people having opinions," and that criticism should be expected during a war as controversial as this one.


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To: ejdrapes
Batiste said he was struck by the "lack of sacrifice and commitment on the part of the American people" to the war, with the exception of families with soldiers fighting in Iraq. "I think that our executive and legislative branches of government have a responsibility to mobilize this country for war. They frankly have not done so.

I think the good general can thanks the dems for this.

81 posted on 04/13/2006 7:38:55 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: MikefromOhio
of course I thank him for his time in Iraq but I gotta wonder if he's a bit bent that he didn't get his 3rd star....

They offered him his 3rd star if he'd return to Iraq but he refused because he didn't want to work with Rumsfeld anymore.

82 posted on 04/13/2006 1:09:50 PM PDT by AntiGuv (The 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty is bad for America and bad for humanity - DUMP IT!)
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To: Reagan 76
Nah, You are wrong on SecDef Rumsfeld. He has been a tremendous asset to this Nation during this WOT. Absolutely the best kind of SecDef we could have wished for. We should be thankful.

Those in the Armed forces by a large margin absolutely agree and support SecDef Rumsfeld. That is the reality. There is a small group of old Mil dinosaurs and old Big Green types who don't like the man because he is adjusting the military to be more effective (and they don't like change).

Within this segment of anti-Rumsfeld types are also a bunch of candyass$s who constantly like to come up with excuses for why this or that can't get accomplished....but on the other hand constantly demand the lions share of every budget.

SecDef Rumsfeld has done more for our actual warriors and shooters then any SecDef in the last 50 years. He continues to demand ways for our shooters to be less dependent and more autonomous in thier actions (shortening that cruical OODA loop in the process) by finding ways of cutting out the constant need of CIA spooks or OGAs.

Furthermore these ex-Gen's going out and talking to the MSM shows much more about themselves...then anything about our SecDef.

83 posted on 04/13/2006 3:28:37 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: brazzaville
Yes sir, This kinder gentler thing isn't and won't work on Dems. But it'll likely be to late before its digested.
84 posted on 04/13/2006 6:52:49 PM PDT by mcshot (Enemies through the gates and it's here.)
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To: DevSix
Your reply never addressed any of the specifics points I made. The Navy might as well still be under Dick Danzig. The Army is still holding to the quota's and the reduced standards. Has a single social change been reversed? I served in the military when Reagan took over and rolled back all of the Carter era social changes, as well as implementing a few of his own; the "We Ask, Don't Join" policy for example.

Don was and did all of the things I wrote about, correct? The average white female is still not making it through her first army enlistment, right? We are still setting records for out-of-wedlock births amongst are enlisted females..and we are still subsidizing it...right?

85 posted on 04/14/2006 9:44:29 AM PDT by Reagan 76
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To: DevSix
Those in the Armed forces by a large margin absolutely agree and support SecDef Rumsfeld. That is the reality. There is a small group of old Mil dinosaurs and old Big Green types who don't like the man because he is adjusting the military to be more effective (and they don't like change).

And many of them owe their own career advancements to one of their own who made it up there to four stars and the political position of Secretary of State.

Zinni, Swannack, Riggs, Batiste, Newbold and Eaton. Who or what is the one thing they all have in common.

86 posted on 04/25/2006 10:32:17 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: Alamo-Girl

A-G, number 86 above for your attention. Recall the FReeper past research into links between certain military events?


87 posted on 04/25/2006 10:55:23 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: archy

Thanks for the ping, archy!


88 posted on 04/25/2006 12:44:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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