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Marines Ban Sports Brands From Battlefield Clothing
wpxi.com Pittsburgh ^ | April 12, 2006 | IBS

Posted on 04/12/2006 12:35:10 PM PDT by Abathar

BALTIMORE -- A military news Web site reported that synthetic athletic clothing containing polyester and nylon has been prohibited for Marines conducting missions away from forward operating bases and camps in Iraq.

Under direction of Marine Corps commanders in Iraq, the ban on popular clothing from companies such as Under Armour, CoolMax and Nike comes in the wake of concerns that a substantial burn risk is associated with wearing clothing made with these synthetic materials.

TheWBALChannel.com in Baltimore reported that the site -- Military.com -- says that when the clothing is exposed to extreme heat and flames, some synthetic materials such as polyester will melt and can fuse to the skin.

A military surgeon said this essentially creates a second skin and can lead to horrific, disfiguring burns.

“Burns can kill you and they’re horribly disfiguring. If you’re throwing (a melted synthetic material) on top of a burn, basically you have a bad burn with a bunch of plastic melting into your skin and that’s not how you want to go home to your family,” said Navy Capt. Lynn E. Welling, the 1st Marine Logistics Group head surgeon.

According to Tension Technology International, a company that specializes in synthetic fibers, most man-made fabrics, such as nylon, acrylic or polyester will melt when ignited and produce a hot, sticky, melted substance causing extremely severe burns.

Military.com reported Marines have been limited to wearing clothing made with these materials only while on the relatively safe forward operating bases and camps where encounters with fires and explosions are relatively low.

Baltimore-based Under Armour advertises that the fabric used to make their garments will draw perspiration from the skin to the outer layer of the clothing allowing the person wearing it to remain cool and dry in any condition or climate.

The site said servicemembers with jobs that put them at a high risk of flame exposure, such as pilots and explosive ordnance disposal personnel, were kept from wearing polyester materials because of the extra burn threat. Now, with so many encounters with IED explosions, the Marines are extending this ban to everyone going “outside the wire.”

When working in a low-risk environment where exposure to flames or intense heat is minimal, the military said the high performance apparel can be an optimal option for staying cool in the Iraq heat.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
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I have a set of scars from melted plastic that splashed on me when I had a fire and threw a log on a burning piece of polyethalene that splashed back on me. I reacted wrong and went to wipe it off without thinking, it just smeared on me and my hand, spreading the burn like smearing jelly on a peice of bread. The worst part was peeling the hard crust off of your skin, you might as well just get a knife and cut it off, probably would have hurt less than peeling did.
1 posted on 04/12/2006 12:35:11 PM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar

It is also why NASCAR and Indycar drivers don't wear the stuff.


2 posted on 04/12/2006 12:36:54 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Abathar

Burning plastics are no fun. That's why there are a few napalm recipes with them.


3 posted on 04/12/2006 12:38:59 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Abathar
The site said servicemembers with jobs that put them at a high risk of flame exposure, such as pilots and explosive ordnance disposal personnel, were kept from wearing polyester materials because of the extra burn threat. Now, with so many encounters with IED explosions, the Marines are extending this ban to everyone going “outside the wire.”

Why our flight suits and gloves were made of Nomex! (Also we were directed to wear cotton only underclothing)

4 posted on 04/12/2006 12:39:23 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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maybe this is stupid - but "what do they wear instead"?


5 posted on 04/12/2006 12:40:33 PM PDT by phasma proeliator (It's not always being fast or even accurate that counts... it's being willing.)
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Typical GI issue cotton undershirts...


6 posted on 04/12/2006 12:42:13 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: phasma proeliator

100% cotton is always good, lot of wrinkles, but just burns instead of melts.


7 posted on 04/12/2006 12:44:34 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: phasma proeliator

Cotton or Nomex is my guess.


8 posted on 04/12/2006 12:45:21 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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I worry about all of those new ultra-soft blankers and stuffed animals that are being sold...made from spun plastic, if I'm not mistaken.


9 posted on 04/12/2006 12:47:08 PM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
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Yes they are, I took one of my kids new stuffed animals that feels like smooth oil soaked velvet (yuk, hate the feel of that stuff), she has a bath robe made from it also. Since my dog thought it was one of his chew toys I set it on a piece of cardboard and put it in our fireplace to see how well it burns, the kids thought it was fun to watch dad play pyro so they all watched too. It melted and burned REAL fast, I showed them my scars and then showed them all the stuff they had made out of that stuff in their bedroom. I think it actually sunk in to the two oldest.
10 posted on 04/12/2006 12:56:35 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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To: phasma proeliator

Not crap that burns and melts!


11 posted on 04/12/2006 12:57:59 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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Marines Ban Sports Brands From Battlefield Clothing

Is it just me or was this a misleading headline? I expected they were ordering soldiers to not wear popular brands of clothing because of the branding...

12 posted on 04/12/2006 1:11:44 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ has a tolerance for sinners; liberals have a tolerance for sin.)
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I know a UH-60 crew chief who no longer wears a paracord ID-tag chain cover. He now sports a permanant hangman's scar where the paracord melted to his skin in a hydraulic fire.

I have similar scars from melting paracord ends and getting careless.

Now, for the other side. Will there be "unintended consequences", such as increased heat stroke and hypo-thermia resulting for the use of cotton undergarments?


13 posted on 04/12/2006 1:21:12 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Right, I was just about to post the same detail. In the mid-fifties, there were some knock-off gloves that contained a light plastic fiber mix. Some aviators thought they were more comfortable on long SAC training missions and bought them. A B-47 stalled and crashed during a TAG landing series at McConnell AFB, Kansas and, while the crew was killed on impact, the backseater's fingers were melted off from the plastic-like fabric in his gloves. Ugh! I was on the accident investigation board and saw what plastic can do in a fire. CINC/SAC, Gen. O'Connell, let be known that any flight officer found to possess those type gloves, or other flight gear with that content, would lose his flight status and career very quickly.


14 posted on 04/12/2006 1:21:44 PM PDT by middie (ath.Tha)
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To: Abathar

Of course, the old hard-core saying "cotton kills" is always present. Cotton offers near-zero insulation and will become a major liability if wet, even from sweat. But, that probably beats burning to death.


15 posted on 04/12/2006 1:23:18 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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This is why a lot of us were against disco. It wasn't the music as much as it was the fire trap clothing.
16 posted on 04/12/2006 1:29:27 PM PDT by manwiththehands ("Rule of law"? We don't need no stinkin' rule of law! We want amnesty, muchacho!)
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"...even from sweat. But, that probably beats burning to death."


I'm with you on that. I'd rather sweat than die.


17 posted on 04/12/2006 1:31:05 PM PDT by encm(ss) (SugarLand delight)
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To: Abathar

Fire Fighters call this phenomenon getting "shrink wrapped"


18 posted on 04/12/2006 1:36:51 PM PDT by BobinIL
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"Now, for the other side. Will there be "unintended consequences", such as increased heat stroke and hypo-thermia resulting for the use of cotton undergarments?"

I don't think so, most of this stuff is new (relatively), and we did without it for a long, long time. Be interesting to see the military's numbers of heat stroke, exhaustion before and after the ban. If the stuff really is as good as people claim it to be.

19 posted on 04/12/2006 2:07:34 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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Hey, I only had to peel the stuff off of my arms and hands once to know I would never, ever want to go through that again.


20 posted on 04/12/2006 2:09:16 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading since 2004)
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