GOP Chiefs Don't Want Immigrants Charged [losing their spine - Hastert, Frist...]

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[RHINO369]

It doesn't really matter if its a felony or a misdemenor is they get deported either way.

Yesterday there were over a thousand illegal protesters on the quad at the University of Illinois Urbana Champaign. From what I saw almost no students, so that means in an area with only around 200,000 people there are over 1000 illegals there who had enough time off to go into town and protest. This is central Illinois, not a border state.

[Uncle Vlad]

I hope the GOP enjoys its minority status come January.

[HardStarboard]

The illegal-immigration issue is no longer an issue. Its now an immigrant-benefit bill and its a great big snowball rolling down the hill to passage.

The next battle will be in the streets

[isrul]

The "people" have already spoken. Not the American citizens but the mob that the sniveling, spineless legislators fear and obey.

[RobbyS]

You have to charge them for specific crimes. You can't just assume they are guilty of violations. The only way this is going to happen is to task city and state police officers to arrest and identify them. If someone who has committed a crime is shown to be illegal, then he/she may be prosecuted for the crime/deported. I think this is happening on a small scale. but my understanding is that cops don't want to do this work.

[Don Joe]

From "Don't Tread on Me!" to "We Cannot Criminalize these Criminals!" in two short centuries.

America, we hardly knew ye...

¡Hola, Amexica!

[surely_you_jest]

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[oceanview]

before we all go off the deep end.

strong enforcement provisions of any bill that emerges, need NOT declare these people as felons. its pointless, we aren't going to deport them all at gunpoint. remember, the Dems voted to keep this in the house bill to trap the republicans.

[Don Joe]

The "people" have already spoken. Not the American citizens but the mob that the sniveling, spineless legislators fear and obey.

Bingo.

In Spain, they listen and obey when the criminals blow up a train station.

In France, they listen and obey when the criminals set some cars on fire.

In America, they listen and obey when the criminals mill in the streets and say "we demand that you obey us!"

We have relinquished the right to scold the Europeans for caving to the terrorists. THEY can now laugh at US. We have given up the high moral ground, in exchange for cheep lay-bor.

We have made ourselves into the contemptible laughingstock of the world.

[Altair333]

I think you guys are overreacting to this particular statement. The fact is that it would be impossible to prosecute them as felons because they would have a right to a jury trial which is impractical for 12 million aliens. Plus, felon means they could serve more than a year in jail- do you think we have enough jail space for that? They can still be prosecuted and deported for misdemeanors.

Don't get me wrong- I fully expect Hastert and Frist to sell us out eventually. They just didn't do so in this statement.

[Don Joe]

We lost. It is over. I guess I am old enough to just sit back and wait so I can laugh in another 20 years when its up to 35 million and they are 33% of the voter population....

Check your math. More likely, it'll be 100 million in five years. Really.

[Don Joe]

So charge them with income tax evasion the day they walk in for the amnesty, or else absolve them of all the crimes they committed, and then explain that to the ordinary American.

I keep seeing commercials for tax attorneys, offering to help people who are behind in their taxes.

If the criminal aliens are given tax amnesty, will AMERICAN citizens get a SIMILAR tax amnesty too?

Or will it be once again, "Advantage, Mexico"?

[jch10]

I can go along with that. I still can't see the feasibility of trying to deport millions of illegals.

Sealing the borders must be first though.

[surely_you_jest]

The fact is that it would be impossible to prosecute them as felons because they would have a right to a jury trial which is impractical for 12 million aliens.

With respect, I believe that you might be missing the point. If illegal aliens are committing a felony by being here, that is a continuing offense. And this means that those who help them remain here, are aiding and abetting a felon in the commission of his / her felony.

[COEXERJ145]

I don't think they could pass a law that would suddenly turn every illegal already here into a felon.

That would be an ex-post-facto law which is expressly prohibited by the Constitution.

[boomop1]

Can't lose what they never had, a spine, or jewels.

[Regulator]

Or will it be once again, "Advantage, Mexico"?

I think you know the answer to that.

[oceanview]

so what? we aren't going to forcibly deport 12 million people through the law enforcement process - get over it. by calling congress and asking for that, we are marginalizing ourselves. we want amnesty stopped, we want border security. we have to stop new entrants from getting in, incentivize/penalize the labor system here to deny them jobs so they deport themselves, and look carefully at who is here and consider legalizing some modest percentage of those where it makes sense (those with US citizen children and property owners, for example).

[Don Joe]

If they can avoid calling them criminals they should. This is a simple matter of logistics. IF they could be called felons the scumbags that will be coaching them could get themselves 100,000 kamikazes and completely swamp our court system.

You missed the point -- by a country mile.

If they are declared felons, then they CANNOT VOTE.

Keep reading that line over and over until the light goes on over your head. You will then seen the reason they will NOT let these "wonderful people" be "labeled as criminals."

If they can't go a-whoring after their VOTES, then the only reason to bring them in, is to satisfy their deep-pocketed donation-machines who want the cheeeep lay-bor. The whole "but what's in it for ME?" factor goes right out the window.

[Don Joe]

I am not going to be depressed if we lose in November because it will not surprise me one bit if we lose.

Judging by what we get when we "win", I'd say that any more "victories" like this and we're finished!

I'm just kidding, though. We're already finished.