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To: r9etb

No, I was just using de Gaulle as an example, who shows that the problem in Europe is not merely with the socialists. And you are right that France has a long history of destructive and essentially uncivilized behavior.

Going back even further, France allied itself for long periods of time with the Muslims against Christian Europe, during much of the 16th and 17th centuries, even though the Grand Turk at that time was a threat to the very survival of Europe.

Then there was the Napoleonic adventure. Not to speak of the French Revolution, which, unlike the American revolution had destructive effects which echo through the western world even today.

France has a long history of putting its "national interests" above absolutely everything else, and the result has not, in fact, been helpful either to western civilization or to France.


34 posted on 04/11/2006 4:07:12 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
re :France has a long history of putting its "national interests" above absolutely everything else.

LOL That is true for every country.

37 posted on 04/12/2006 1:21:29 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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