Posted on 04/10/2006 12:57:07 PM PDT by 5050 no line
When the Krauts looked around he should have said "G-Day Mates".
Denis Dutton on New Zealand "idealism"/appeasement
"Willy Brandt, the social democratic Chancellor of West Germany, was once upbraided by idealistic members of the New Zealand Labour caucus over Nato. As Mike Moore tells the story, Brandt explained his position to the New Zealanders, and added, "Idealism increases in direct proportion to your distance from the problem.""
I haven't seen the "Peace Studies" crowd rear their ugly heads in awhile - this was the bunch that called for international sanctions against Iraq instead of war in 1991 and then turned around and protested the post-war sanctions as soon as those were accused of denying medicine to Iraqi babies (the sanctions didn't, of course, Saddam did, but strangely they didn't seem to want to point that out).
No one is quite as enthusiastic about applying laws and rules to warfare as those who do not have to fight in it. There isn't anything "illegal" about donning the opposition's uniforms - one recalls the Germans doing so just prior to the Battle of the Bulge - but it does line one up to being shot as a spy if caught. This particular hero wasn't out there to arrest the nest of enemy snipers, he was out there to kill them and so he did. And he has my fervent thanks for having done so.
What a chickensh*t allegation after all of these years. The Nazis were cruel monsters who defied every convention of decency. And they deserved much more than Hulme or the rest of the Allies returned to them.
The idea of apologizing to the families of a Nazi sniper is ludicrous. This man outsmarted the enemy and surely saved many lives.
If I was Anita, I'd be getting that thing back before somebody decides I have no right to it.
Just like Canada. And we have no French to make up our excuses of being a weasel: the politicians and intellectuals who openly espouse such leftist ideas (Helen Clark, Margaret Wilson, or Geoffrey Palmer for instance) are purely English stock descendents.
That SOB, can't remember his name ... told everyone he was "Irish" ... heard he married two really rich women ... went into politics in Massachusetts, or something.
True enough that he took a chance of summary execution if captured, but the Geneva Convention was not strictly followed on either side during the war, especially regarding snipers and particularly on the Nazi side. If the guy was up against SS, the fact that he disguised himself in a German uniform would have made no difference. He could have been a sniper, or a medic and the SS would have killed him regardless. The SS seldom took prisoners.
What these pinheads have to answer in how many lives this man saved by eliminating multiple Nazi snipers.
BTW I should stress that "It's just like Canada" refers to Canada's lefties and not their marvellous conservatives lest I incur the wraths of the Canadian squads once again LOL. There is no doubt they are more numerous than conservatives.
Have you visited the museum at the Waiouru ranges?
It's well worth it. History right back to the Maori Wars. Ooops, perhaps I shudn't mention those Wars....:-)
I served with real Kiwis here and there from '65 in Borneo to '69 on Bersatu Padu n still keep in touch. Mine's a Speights.
Like I said, smart (albeit slightly more risky).
Ditto from me on everything you posted.
Now lets see, running around, not in any uniform, shooting at soldiers and get picked up. Maybe we should get back to the letter of the law and start shooting the terrorists our forces pick up in Iraq?
What these idiots wrote is beyond ignorance, it is criminal defamation of a war hero. It's no longer enough that New Zealand refuses to stand with the rest of the major English-speaking nations in fighting against fascism and tyranny, they now feel the need to defame their own war heroes???
Oh yes they are talked in school curricula. I think it is just one of the few NZ history topics that every school teaches. Not surprisingly it is all oppression by the Pakeha (Euroepan) settlers on Maori yada yada.
If my memory is correct, there was no formal separate New Zealand armed forces until WWII, right? Most soldiers before 1941 would have served as British military. (The Statute of Westminster wasn't ratified until 1947 and before that, NZ was formally speaking, still a dependency of Britain)
How quickly the ones who have never sacrificed for the freedoms they enjoy forget who earned it for them.
"Hulme deserved the VC for his outstanding bravery, but he shouldn't have done what he did in disguising himself."
Hi, I'm a 13 year old girl hot to the touch, who wants to touch me? (Actually, I'm a dirty old government employee with a cruddy job and a boss who smokes crack)
I believe you are correct. And I'm about to get in trouble with the Brits, just as you're in trouble with the Canucks.
The British campaigns of WWII in the Mediterranean, from Greece to Crete to El Alamein, seemed to shed an awful lot of Anzac and Indian blood. The Australian, New Zealand and Indian divisions seemed to bear a wholly disproportionate share of the fighting. Similarly, it was the Canadians who were sacrificed at Dieppe.
I've come to believe that the bloodbaths at Ypres and the Somme in WWI caused Imperial General Staff to be very cautious in its commitment of British troops in WWII.
In retrospect, one can understand the motivation, even as one declaims it.
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