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Some will say that this may only small quantity of Chemical Weapons Agents to be used to train their Chemical platoon and it is not an indication of large stocks of Chemical weapons. I think that is wrong first because the mere existence of these Chemical Weapons agent, regardless of its quantity, was totally prohibited for Saddam regime to us. Second, I read hundred of pages of Al Qadysia documents and I concluded that the Iraqis were obsessed with Chemical training for their Chemical platoons and their troops. Why that obsession if they did not have the intention to produce Chemical weapons.
1 posted on 04/10/2006 11:17:06 AM PDT by jveritas
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Saddam Chemical Weapons training.


2 posted on 04/10/2006 11:17:55 AM PDT by jveritas (Hate can never win elections.)
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I'm surprised anthrax isn't listed here. Thanks for the hard work, jveritas!


3 posted on 04/10/2006 11:20:16 AM PDT by Peach
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I believe critics would answer your question by stating that the training was defensive in nature because they expected an enemy to use the weapons against their own troops.

Was there anything in the documents to point towards protecting their own troops from the effect of their own use of those weapons?


4 posted on 04/10/2006 11:22:49 AM PDT by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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They also had chemical warfare training classes at Habaniyah and I'll bet you can guess why I know this as a fact with no uncertainty.


7 posted on 04/10/2006 11:25:37 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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Second, I read hundred of pages of Al Qadysia documents and I concluded that the Iraqis were obsessed with Chemical training for their Chemical platoons and their troops. Why that obsession if they did not have the intention to produce Chemical weapons.

What kind of "chemical training" were they obsessed about? I mean, the U.S. military has chemical platoons and conducts chemical training even though we no longer plan to use them ourselves. I can't recall the number of times I had to go into the ol' gas chamber to swallow my fill of CS. So I guess the question is whether the training you describe is for protection/detection/decontamination, or for delivery.

I'm not saying that I disagree with your overall conclusion, because I don't. I just want to make sure we don't overstate the case in a few instances, because we know the MSM will focus on those few overstatements as a way to discredit what otherwise is a valid conclusion.

13 posted on 04/10/2006 11:34:50 AM PDT by XJarhead
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“The Practical (Applied) Training Schedule”

This appears to be the key to me. While it's true that chemical units do decontamination work, that is not all that this says.

A "practical training schedule" means that they are going ou to do some actual detecting. To do actual detecting, they must have the chemicals on hand for the troops to practice on.

That means, at a minimum, that they had small quantitities for training their troops.

Such small quantities would be deadly in the hands of a terrorist delivery system.

(T6 will correct me if I'm wrong.)

14 posted on 04/10/2006 11:35:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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I haven't looked at this in detail, but this could well be defensive in nature. In other words, training to detect chemical agents dispersed by an enemy (e.g., Iran or the US). Can you point me to a clearly offensive training operation?


18 posted on 04/10/2006 11:40:50 AM PDT by expatpat
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THANK you for doing this, j!!

As I see this forum deteriorating into madness out there, it is YOUR work that keeps me hopeful that there is still a point to all this.

24 posted on 04/10/2006 11:49:18 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi LIBERATION Vet! THANKS, son!!.)
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Here's the latest document translation.


27 posted on 04/10/2006 11:52:23 AM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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BTTT!


28 posted on 04/10/2006 11:55:17 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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jveritas Bump.

29 posted on 04/10/2006 12:00:11 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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The UN weapons inspectors hired a US firm to conduct geophysical investigations during the time period from approximately 1997-98 for possible buried items in Iraq. Included among their "finds"were areas where the geophysical people's electromagnetics determined there were dumped chemicals. It was clear that part of the Iraqi's method for beating the system was to dump/bury suspect items before the weapons inspectors could find them.

The geophysics people described the Iraq country side pristine as compared to lots of buried wires, pipes, etc. in the US.
33 posted on 04/10/2006 12:20:34 PM PDT by Western Phil
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You make me want to learn Arabic so I can help you out with this.


35 posted on 04/10/2006 12:23:01 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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Sir, I noticed documents released on 4/07 and 4/08 have been "pulled" from the website. A couple of them looked rather interesting.

Any thoughts ?


48 posted on 04/10/2006 12:59:43 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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Jveritas,

No doubt the MSM peeks in here each day and no doubt with each of your translations the MSM is getting an increasingly worse migraine headache as critical mass approaches.

They (MSM) know that at some point that they will have to begin reporting on the new information coming from the documents. And they also know that saying the documents are fake won't work.

Jveritas and all the other translators have the MSM in a real quagmire.

Good work!
50 posted on 04/10/2006 1:02:10 PM PDT by avacado
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jveritas=Great American


54 posted on 04/10/2006 1:13:12 PM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Islamic Terrorists, the Mainstream Media and the Democrat Party Have the Same Goals in Iraq.)
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Talk about too little too late.......

Am I the only one that gets angry reading these "smoking gun" documents now that the pooch, cattle and the neighbors canary has been screwed?


62 posted on 04/10/2006 1:35:04 PM PDT by Fighting Irish
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You DA MAN! JV!


63 posted on 04/10/2006 1:51:04 PM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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Excellent work!

Drive on!


65 posted on 04/10/2006 2:13:59 PM PDT by roaddog727 (P=3/8 A. or, P=plenty...............)
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69 posted on 04/10/2006 4:52:34 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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