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Owners of small boats with low horsepower and those who can trailer their boats are in better shape than the bigger boats in marina slips, that are at the mercy of the climbing marina slip fees, and the higher marina gas pump prices.

Any Freeper boaters care to comment? Any anecdotes? How are my fellow Freepers coping with this problem. - tom

1 posted on 04/09/2006 5:58:04 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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Sure am glad I have a sailboat. I might use 10 gallons at most for the whole year going out just about every weekend.


2 posted on 04/09/2006 6:04:00 PM PDT by diverteach
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I have an 18 foot bow rider with a 120 hp merc on it. The boat is very good on gas. We use it for fishing, tubing, and for cruising. We use it on the Hudson river up in the Catskill area.

As far as the marina goes, we wouldnt touch one. We trailer it to the public launch ramp abotu 20 mins away from the house- as do most people in this area. The lauch can get crowded on weekends, but most people are patient and wait in line. My family has thought abotu gettig a larger boat, but with gas prices and the expense of docking it for the summer, we are happy with the 18 foot for now.


3 posted on 04/09/2006 6:05:12 PM PDT by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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I boat on the allegheny river in pittsburgh. We have a Mastercraft, ski boat. I lost my Malibu in the flood of 2004 and replaced it immediately. This is a heavily boated area. While the price of gas is up, I have not noticed any appreciable decline in usage.Interestingly to me is that what I see in boat sales is that the bigger ones are selling better. The exact opposite of what you have suggested and what I would expect. I fill mine up for $60-75, they fill those tubs up for $1,000+++. I would suggest that the problem or question is different than you suggest. There use to be 200 million people in the U. S. now there are 340 million. Everyone loves the water. Some can pay.


4 posted on 04/09/2006 6:11:07 PM PDT by learner
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NC coast is seeing private boating access disappear as marinas sellout to developers who upscale the property with condos.

Same with the fishing piers They're being torn down in favor of condos.


5 posted on 04/09/2006 6:12:23 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The last time I was this angry with a President was when Slick was in office.)
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Time to go sailing


6 posted on 04/09/2006 6:15:17 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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What's wrong with plopping a kayak on top of your car and driving 30 minutes to a nearby lake or river? That's my idea of "boating". No gas. No noise. No drunk and obnoxious weekend warrior hydroplane racer wannabes.
8 posted on 04/09/2006 6:20:31 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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Rent a private slip with elec and water for $900.00season from 4/1 to 11/30 in South Jersey. have a Johnson 88 special and always take two 6 gal. tanks with me . I can shop around because of that, and store fuel I buy at the lowest price in extra tanks.


9 posted on 04/09/2006 6:22:51 PM PDT by Renegade
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...45' Cabo...

Whoa, one of these? Had no idea what it was, so I had to look it up. Nice boat. Have always loved that style. But...sigh...I can see I'm gonna remain a landlubber for the foreseeable future! Thanks for the update.

10 posted on 04/09/2006 6:25:27 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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I can assure you that this crisis has nothing to do with working class boating issues. Our Lund and Alumacraft 17 footers with Evinrude and Johnson outboards sip gas. In fact, it takes more fuel to haul them up north on the back of the truck than it does to spend a day slaughtering walleyes and northerns.

Sailboats, inboards and marina slips...pshaw!


11 posted on 04/09/2006 6:28:21 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Di'ver'si'ty (adj.): A compound word derived from the root words: division; perversion; adversity.)
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Why would anyone pay to keep their boat in the water?

Neither of my boats use a drop of gasoline. All I have to do is make sure the Marine battery is charged and I can run the trolling motor all day long.

Bass and walleyes fear me, which is at it should be.

L

13 posted on 04/09/2006 6:32:17 PM PDT by Lurker (In God I trust. Everyone else shows me their hands.)
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I fish the flats when going offshore gets expensive.

Snook and reds are almost as good as grouper.

15 posted on 04/09/2006 6:34:48 PM PDT by nunya bidness (“Unsung, the noblest deed will die.” - Pindar)
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If you want to buy a boat, save yourself a lot of grief and aggravation by doing the following:

Take out a $75,000 loan in cash and dump the cash into the nearest body of water.

Then, when you want to actually go out on a boat ride, charter a boat and consider yourself lucky you don't actually own one of these moneypits.

17 posted on 04/09/2006 6:35:55 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Need a tree census in Maine)
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I have just returned from a United States Power Squadron meeting in Arlington, Texas for our District, Texas and Western Louisiana.One of the major topics was the cost of boat insurance for boaters along the Gulf Coast or lack thereof..

The insurance carrier that was working with us now refuses to write insurance on boats over 30 feet long, over 100,000 dollars, or over 10 years old as a result of the last several years hurricanes. This applies to boaters along the Gulf Coast (probably includes the Florida Atlantic Coast)

In searching for a new company some owners were refused insurance in Louisiana because of the unique rules there, read that as you may. Other companies say they will write it but you don't want to hear the cost.

I believe a new carrier has been located but we haven't seen the terms yet.

FYI, the USPS is a boating education and fraternal organization with about 50,000 members. Many belong because of the very favorable insurance prices available to us.
19 posted on 04/09/2006 6:44:38 PM PDT by CenTex (No vote for 'Big Hair Perry' here...)
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Do what a lot of power boaters do ... park your boat in a slip and use it as a summer cottage. Sailed in the Med a few years back ... large power yachts would travel up to 300 miles to fuel in Gibraltar ... and save enough to make it worthwhile.


20 posted on 04/09/2006 6:46:07 PM PDT by BluH2o
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I guess I'll comment. Boo f'in Hoo. There's nothing sillier than a boat unless it's a nose ring. I wouldn't accept one as a gift unless I could put an ad in the paper to sell it the next day.

'Course that's just my opinion.


23 posted on 04/09/2006 6:58:39 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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It would cost me about $170 to fill up my Grady at gas station prices. Closer to $200 at marina prices.

I didn't go out at all after Katrina last year...but with prices close to those levels now, I guess I'm going to have to plan shorter trips this year.


27 posted on 04/09/2006 7:08:34 PM PDT by Doohickey (Democrats are nothing without a constituency of victims.)
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>Non-boat owners can't relate to filling up a boat fuel tank and spending between $100 and in the case of big twin diesels in a sportfisherman a thousand dollars a fillup.<

Ya think?

Skippers of these "land yachts" feel your pain. An RV like this gets around 6-7 mpg, and holds 55 gallons of gasoline minimum. Tack on running the generator, and you can go through some gas in a hurry.

29 posted on 04/09/2006 7:14:23 PM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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I'm interested in your essay, but not sure how to comment.

If I'm understanding correctly though, fuel prices are not that high historically, once inflation is taken into account. 'Course, with Venezuela and Iran in the picture, they may be shortly.

So, I have the feeling that during the last 20 years or so, the problem is more that boats have been built heavier, wider, larger, and with lots more horsepower, rather than that fuel has gotten overy pricey. These days, for instance, Bimini is filled with weekend warriors, all of them owning 25-35 footers, deep vees, easily suitable for short ocean passages, even in fairly rough conditions, with from 400 to 600 horsepower outboard packages, and having minimum fuel cap'y of 200 gallons. And those are just the "small" boats, as you know. And a lot of 'em are "blue collar" boats. My plumber owns a 28' deep vee with 400 hp, aluminum tower, fancy outriggers, the whole deal.

Anyway, go back 25 years, and everyone (going offshore of the reef) had 20 footers, pretty much, and with a max of 200 hp, usually considerably less, and 60-80 gallon fuel cap'y. Lots less expensive to run, still good enough to cross the Stream.

Go back another 40 years, there weren't large outboards, only 4 stroke gas engines, boats were much narrower, cut through the water nicely, burned less gas. IMO, excessive beam isn't so seaworthy anyhow, better to make it longer than wider if you want more room.

I have noticed that waterfront land is getting too expensive to be used for marinas or boat yards. Those things are dwindling, the ones that remain will get very high prices for their services.

My opinion is though, that most municipalities will keep dock space available for charter boats and visiting yachtsmen, there's still money in it, plus they can rent space for stores, restaurants, etc. Same goes for hotels, they'll want those services for their guests, plus they get a share of the take.

So I'm not sure how the boating future is for the ordinary guy, but I think it'll be OK, most of 'em keep their boats on trailers anyway, while I think space will probably be provided for the commercial guys if only for the reason that it's in the interest of other businesses to have 'em around.

Interesting question anyhow - I'm a believer in the free market, but confess that I have mixed feelings about it all, just as I do when I see farms being developed for housing, or wilderness disappearing.


30 posted on 04/09/2006 7:15:31 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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I've been selling (larger) boats for 20+ years...

Bumps in boating costs create temporary ebbs in sales, but 5 months later...

If you can afford a Cabo 45, you can afford to fill the tanks - just a small drop in the bucket compared to all the other costs of ownership. But you may take a few less offshore trips each season.

Insurance and dockage costs have gone way up - that's what worries me more. And all boat yards suck, but that's nothing new...

Do you know what BOAT stands for? Bust Out Another Thousand - woohoo!

32 posted on 04/09/2006 7:22:27 PM PDT by ImProudToBeAnAmerican (Tom Daschle is deeply saddened... Remember him? Bahahahahahahahahaha!)
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Why would anyone own a stinkpot? Sail is the only way to go! Maybe a hundred gallons or so of diesel for the whole season for the auxillary.


33 posted on 04/09/2006 7:24:00 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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