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To: tonycavanagh

I'd say the vast majority in Europe is in denial. Though I would say that in eastern Europe it is somewhat less as they still recall the Soviet occupation. But in western Europe the levels of denial are amazing, especially in France and Germany. And here in Netherlands too.


17 posted on 04/07/2006 5:01:57 AM PDT by Palpatine (The lesson of modern politics is that no class is less fit to govern than that which governs us now)
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To: Palpatine
re :And here in Netherlands too.

Thats ok I have nothing against you criticizing your own people next time quantify your statement, when talking to Americans as Europe means my country as well.

18 posted on 04/07/2006 5:04:12 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: Palpatine
Some parts of Eastern Europe aren't in denial at all. Of course, the leaders of a sufficiently ruthless campaign to stop the Islamists were betrayed by the West, which gave the Muslims an airforce to help them after a few faked masscres, and then has hauled them up on 'war crimes' charges.

Even the interviewee doesn't get it, and dutifully recited the 'genocide in Europe' lie about the Wars of the Yugoslav Dissolution. Bussing out the women and children, fighting a fierce battle, and summarily executing surviving enemy fighters--arguably traitors all in the contexts of a civil war (probably killing 5000 or fewer between the fighting and summary executions, not 8000) as happened at Srebrencia does not constitute genocide. (The 8000 is rounded up from the war-time estimate of 7500, and the ICRC reported 2500 men and boys left Srebrenica before it was overrun--also about 3000 of the 'missing, presumed murdered' registered for municipal elections after the war.) All the other genocide tales told against the Serbs have proven even more baseless.

Clausewitz observed that in the long-run total war is more merciful than half-measures in war. The Serbs understood this and had memories form their grandparents of the Turkocratia, and their parents of the Muslim SS divisions to spur them on. We and Europe had better remember that soon, hopefully before Europe endures Islamic domination, or any more mass-casualty attacks are inflicted on us or them.

28 posted on 04/07/2006 6:43:34 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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