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1 posted on 04/06/2006 2:28:16 PM PDT by quidnunc
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Never mess with the 'Corps! Semper Fi!


2 posted on 04/06/2006 2:35:29 PM PDT by gman992
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VDH nails it again. Especially citing McKinney's comment on Cheney's hunting accident "cover up".
3 posted on 04/06/2006 2:37:24 PM PDT by llevrok (Illegal immigrants or "colonists" ?)
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To: quidnunc
When my brother was a missile tech on a Navy boomer in the early 1970's, some old guy came on board his sub during some type of family tour day.

There was a big stink because my brother used physical restraint to keep the guy from going past some checkpoint without the proper credentials.

My brother got some type of recognition from the old guy because of the incident.

The old guy's name was Rickover, and he was trying to see how far he could get through the sub, simply using facial recognition. My brother was the one that finally stopped him.
4 posted on 04/06/2006 2:39:42 PM PDT by baltodog (R.I.P. Balto: 2001(?) - 2005)
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To: quidnunc

These elite Congress critters are breaking any sensible security measures with this exemption anyway. These Congress pins could easily stolen out of lockers, off clothing, out of cars, etc. All Johnny Jihad has to do is get wear a nice suit with a stolen pin, get waved past the guard and metal detector and set off his bomb.

There is no way a guard could remember the faces of all 500 members of Congress with any certainty. They need to show photo ID like the "little people" they are supposed to be serving.


5 posted on 04/06/2006 2:40:35 PM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: quidnunc
And if race and gender were not enough, McKinney evoked the standard sexual harassment code words "inappropriate touching" - as if a randy guard were trying to grope the defenseless congresswoman.

Oh, yuck.

6 posted on 04/06/2006 2:42:59 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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Of course, both Naughton and McKinney should have apologized to the guard for putting him in such a position. If they were worthy of their status, they would have.

Years ago, when I was a major in the U.S. Army, I was stopped by the M.P. while I was jogging in the snow about 11 p.m., wearing a military jacket over my running clothes. (It was very cold.) The M.P., and enlisted man, apologized for stopping me but told me that I should not be wearing only part of my uniform like that. I assured him that he owed me no apology and then said, "I apologize to you for putting you in this position; it won't happen again." He was right. I was wrong.

7 posted on 04/06/2006 2:44:13 PM PDT by Savage Beast (9/11 was never repeated--thanks to President Bush and his surveillance program.)
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To: quidnunc
and that eventually public pressure catches up with aristocratic arrogance and even the powerful are held to account.

I doubt anything will come of the McKinney episode. In the Navy (and at the Academy) you are worthless without character, in Mrs. McKinney's circles, you are pretty much worthless if you have character.....

8 posted on 04/06/2006 2:46:40 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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Slandering someone as racist and sexist is now supposed to do for Democrats what the old wealth and power purportedly did for Republicans - give them an unfair advantage and allow them to evade the rules.

Progressives once gained credence because they insisted merit should outweigh class, money and connections. These days they are losing credibility when they insist race and gender should trump merit and facts.

America has learned to apply the rules to a Vice Adm. Richard J. Naughton; now it must also insist on them for Rep. Cynthia McKinney.

- Hanson.

9 posted on 04/06/2006 2:46:40 PM PDT by PsyOp (The commonwealth is theirs who hold the arms.... - Aristotle.)
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To: quidnunc
After Boot Camp at Parris Island, we were sent to Infantry Training Regiment at Camp Lejeune where we spent awhile standing guard duty. One night one of the men in my company had someone passing his post. After two calls of "Halt, who is there?" without receiving a response, the guard locked & loaded and once more shouted, "Halt, who is there!"

This time the person stopped. The guard had him take out his ID card, place it on the deck, step back three paces, about face and get down in "front lean at rest" (push-up) position. The guard picked up the ID card, read it, came to present arms and said, "Officer of the Day recognized, Sir". That guard was promoted from Private to PFC because of his correct response to someone (in authority, as it turned out) ignoring a lawful command.

I hope this Capitol guard gets a promotion.
10 posted on 04/06/2006 2:48:17 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Actions have consequences.")
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To: Tolik

FYI


12 posted on 04/06/2006 2:52:12 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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Air Force basic training has a procedure of "Dorm Guards", which are pretty worthless except for making sure no one steals people's shoes from under beds and as training for what goes on at a military base.

I was pulling dorm guard when the TI bullied himself in behind a person I had cleared into the dorm. I would have never opened the door for him without clearance, but I didn't understand that I was permitted and expected to physically restrain someone trying to enter by bluster and force.

He chewed me out and wrote me up, and I learned how real security works.

16 posted on 04/06/2006 3:22:08 PM PDT by narby
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A friend ( Army not USMC) told me this story: He was working in a Comm shack in Panama in the height of the cold war when a man walked in and moved toward the radio. My fiend pulled his .45 and told him to stop. The guy was in civies and demanded his name saying "Don't you know who I am?" My friend in fact did NOT know who the man was. End of story after three warnings to leave, my friend shot the man in the shoulder. He turned out to be a new 1st Lt. and was stupid but otherwise harmless. One thing he was, though was honest. He told the same story and ended up with a Courts Marshall himself. My fiend was given three day pass. The Office was gone when he got back off leave. Of course having been the guy who shot an officer and got away with it, he drank free for the rest of his time at that base.
18 posted on 04/06/2006 3:32:10 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (John Spencer is the warrior we have been waiting for.We can trust him with our future.)
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America has learned to apply the rules to a Vice Adm. Richard J. Naughton; now it must also insist on them for Rep. Cynthia McKinney.

Her so-called apology today was obviously crafted by a scumball attorney ... maybe even Bill Clinton himself ... in that, if you listen to it closely, it only apologized for the fact that the incident attracted so much attention. I hope she is indicted if for no other reason than to send a message to ALL of congress that we have had enough of their arrogance. They are elected servants of the people, not royalty.

19 posted on 04/06/2006 4:04:30 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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When I was a wet behind the ears midshipman, three of us went swimming on the beach on base, then walked down the beach with our uniforms in bundles. We decided there was a possible shortcut back to the base and took it.

We got throughly lost, entered a "restricted area" and came up to small bunker with two marine guards in full combat togs. I walked up to one to ask directions. His M14 snapped down with a naked bayonet an inch from my stomach accompanied by a stentorian "Halt!". I had my id card and showed it to him. When I moved again, the rifle snapped down again with the bayonet near my belly and a repeated "Halt! Sir!". Moments later a squad of marines deployed on the sand dunes around the bunker, rifles pointed at us, and a machinegun being set up to cover us wee midshipmen.

All worked out. We got a ride back to the pier in a jeep with the Segeant of the Guard who informed us that we shouldn't be there, ought be reported, would be in a great deal of trouble if we were, but wouldn't be as long as we "never did that again"

Never learned what was in the bunker.


22 posted on 04/06/2006 5:01:41 PM PDT by Wisconsin
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During Air Force BMT in 1990, I was doing dorm guard duty about 2am. Our TI showed up banging on the door and screaming to be let in. He recognized me and I him... but the rule was nobody could enter without displaying proper ID. He pressed his ID up against the window with his thumb intentionally over the photo part of the ID. Even though he threatened to kick my ass as soon as I opened the door, I refused. He finally displayed the ID properly and I let him in. (Of course we all knew this was a mind game and he had they keys to open the door at any time).
25 posted on 04/06/2006 5:14:56 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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27 posted on 04/07/2006 4:19:52 AM PDT by Tolik
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Have I mentioned that this wench was my congresscritter for 10 years? And that I organized a FReep of a "veterans town hall meeting" she had 4 years ago? Went to bed one night represented by Newt, in the old GA 6th, and woke up represented by this moonbat. They've adjusted the lines, and I'm back in the 6th District, thankfully.

Some good stories here in the thread.


29 posted on 04/07/2006 5:00:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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" ... America has learned to apply the rules to a Vice Adm. Richard J. Naughton; now it must also insist on them for Rep. Cynthia McKinney. "


Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

A military person is very easily taken down, but as we have seen in the Hillary "900 Republican FBI Files" Clinton case, the politician is a class above the rest.




34 posted on 04/07/2006 5:46:27 AM PDT by G.Mason (The "Kick Me Here" sign the Republican Party gave me kept wearing out, so I had it tattooed on.)
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