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Gorbachev says U.S. has `illusion of omnipotence'
SGVTribune ^ | 4/6/2006 | Emanuel Parker

Posted on 04/06/2006 11:41:39 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

PASADENA - Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev said the United States has an illusion of omnipotence - "the victory complex" - that's more dangerous than Russia's inferiority complex.

"Both countries should overcome those feelings," he said, "and their leaders should reflect what the people want, and what the people want is dialogue."

Gorbachev spoke through an interpreter Wednesday to a full house at the Distinguished Speaker Series at the Pasadena Civic Auditorium.

He said the United States has a right to claim a leadership role in the world based on its military, cultural and economic power.

"But partnerships rather than domination should be used to exercise that power," he said. Gorbachev, the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize winner, spoke for almost 90 minutes on a wide range of issues.

On Iraq, he said: "I believe the only way out is for the U.S. to have an exit strategy that gives Iraq a chance to solve its problems, gets help from other Arab nations and does so with the involvement of the U.N. Security Council."

Gorbachev took a swipe at the Bush administration's efforts to bring democracy to Iraq.

"Leaders should learn from Russia and not interfere in other countries," he said. "You cannot enforce democracy. Democracy is only worth something if it's homegrown. We need to respect other nations. Those who try and teach democracy often have a history that's not that good."

Gorbachev said it would be a mistake to lump the majority of the world's 1.5 billion Muslims with a few extremists and fundamentalists.

"Traditional Islam and Christianity share the same values," he said. "They don't want to be condescended to. They want to be equals with the West."

"We're still using the old tools of force, thinking that war solves problems," Gorbachev said. "The people of the world don't need or want that, and instead envision living in a balanced, stable world where diversity is accepted and recognized."

He said perestroika, the government restructuring he started in the Soviet Union, was interrupted by the corrupt administration of Boris Yeltsin, but is resuming under Russian President Vladimir Putin.

"Anything can happen," he said. "There will be rollbacks and we may stumble, but Russia will never turn back, Russia will move forward.

"We want to have democracy. But what you did in 200 years, we cannot do in 200 days."

There has been backsliding on nuclear treaties he signed with Presidents Reagan and George H. W. Bushcq in the 1980s and '90s, he said.

"We agreed neither country would use nuclear weapons in a first strike. We signed a statement that said a nuclear war could not be won and should never be fought," he said.

Current U.S. nuclear strategy discusses the possiblity of using nuclear weapons for a first strike, he said, so Russia has inserted similar language in their nuclear plans.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: americanempire; antiamericanism; communist; gorby; mccarthywasright; socialist; theevilempire; theredmenace
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"The Soviet Union could have been preserved and should have been preserved. ... I wanted to decentralize the Soviet Union and give the maximum amount of rights to the republics as guaranteed under the constitution, while preserving in the center the most important functions such as defense, diplomacy, coordination." - Mikhail Gorbachev
1 posted on 04/06/2006 11:41:41 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Doesn't he sound like a jealous older brother????


2 posted on 04/06/2006 11:42:39 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Tailgunner Joe

That's his opinion. OTOH, Gorby's got a nice map of Gorbistan on his head.


3 posted on 04/06/2006 11:43:35 AM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

... and Gorbie has delusions of relevance.


4 posted on 04/06/2006 11:44:00 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Just mythoughts
Have another liter of Vodka, you old communist souse.
5 posted on 04/06/2006 11:44:01 AM PDT by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

equal to the west? why? should grendel have been equal to beowulf? the giant to david? no they shouldn't have been because for that to be fact would have meant tyranny and terror for all.


6 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:07 AM PDT by kinghorse (Sorry Iran, you lose. (unless you get the bomb))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Gorbie, still using up perfectly good air.


7 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:14 AM PDT by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The world is full of armchair quarterbacks.


8 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:21 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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He bloviates from his nice residence in PASADENA, CA.

Gee, I wonder why he picked the USA as his retirement country? Why not Rawanda?

9 posted on 04/06/2006 11:46:53 AM PDT by corkoman
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Omnipotence? Gorby hangs with liberals all the time. They think the US can't do anything right. Omnipotence? Sure, right.


10 posted on 04/06/2006 11:47:59 AM PDT by rhombus
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Gorbachev says U.S. has `illusion of omnipotence'

DoctorMichael says Gorbachev has `illusion of relevancy'.

11 posted on 04/06/2006 11:48:01 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: corkoman

Guess there was nothing available on the Black Sea.


12 posted on 04/06/2006 11:48:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let me know when Russia has all those nuclear missiles dismantled, okay Gorby?


13 posted on 04/06/2006 11:49:20 AM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Don't look now, Gorbie, but......


14 posted on 04/06/2006 11:51:28 AM PDT by tracer
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" Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev said the United States has an illusion of omnipotence..."

To the contrary, the United States faces great danger, and offers vulnerability as an open society. But yes, we are strong. And yes, we have a president who understands all of these things.

15 posted on 04/06/2006 11:53:16 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Mr. Gorbachev, you are right our (American Democracy) Republic thrived for 200 years until around 1917. Since your revolution, Mr. Lenin's folks have been doing all they could to undermine America, inlcuding the current efforts of your ACLU. Our Republic was built upon the solid rock of an Almighty God. Without Him, and His Word, it won't work.

Oh yes, to my knowledge, America has not made a unilateral nuclear strike to date.


16 posted on 04/06/2006 11:53:16 AM PDT by Paperdoll (On the cutting edge)
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"DoctorMichael says Gorbachev has `illusion of relevancy.

When was the last time you ruled one of the largest nations on this planet?

17 posted on 04/06/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by freedom9
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Poor Mike is suffering from "Jimmuh Carter" syndrome.


18 posted on 04/06/2006 11:53:46 AM PDT by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Gorbachev.....????

Wasn't he that funny looking Communist who frittered his country away while we casually spent his measly 5th-world economy into oblivion?

Yeah.....that's him.

I'm pretty sure he's got "reality of impotence" by now.
19 posted on 04/06/2006 11:55:16 AM PDT by conservativeharleyguy ( Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Dude, you guys didn't even have enough food. Forget about "diplomacy" and all that other stuff...
20 posted on 04/06/2006 11:59:50 AM PDT by krb (ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
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