I agree this is a good middle of the road. Deport the newbies. Make the others become citizens, Stop anymore traffic. If all 11 million illegals were instantly made felons, I think it would be a nightmare to enforce. Put them all in jail? Comncentration camps? Cattle trains to Mexico? I do think it should be a felony for anymore newbies who cross.
Do you realize what you just wrote? MAKE them become citizens?
If employers are scared to death to ILLEGALLY employ anymore ILLEGAL aliens, then the jobs will go away. If hospitals, schools, and other entities are legislatively excused from being required to provide free benefits, or are prohibited from providing free benefits, to illegal aliens then all of the incentives for illegal aliens to remain here will go away and they will deport themselves. Requiring that they return to their home countries to apply for LEGAL immigration will become a further incentive for them to leave and come back in a controlled manner. Setting a deadline for them to have to be out of the country and stating that anyone caught here illegally after that date would be permanently prohibited from ever obtaining legal status would provide a further disincentive for staying here illegally and they would go home. If we don't make each and every person here illegally get the hell out and come back under our terms, then we're admitting that our laws don't matter, our sovereign borders are worthless, and that America lacks the courage to protect itself from the invasion that has brought over 20 million criminal invaders inside our borders.
"I agree this is a good middle of the road. Deport the newbies"
Are you that gullible? Do you think the newbies have "newby" tattooed on their head? They will all go get some forged document (utlity bill, pay stub, etc) saying they've been here 6 years. Even the ones who just crossed the border.
You know, if I really thought that's what would happen, I'd accept it. But I honestly have about zero faith in that. All the talk we've heard is regarding the "amnesty" issue. Forget that for a moment -- on what basis should we assume they really are stopping that additional traffic? Exactly how does this bill guarantee -- or even give us a reasonable basis to believe -- that illegal immigration will stop? I don't see it.
Unlike most others here, I'm pretty much resigned to the fact that most of the ones currently here will get to stay. Logistically, legally, politically, and everything else, forced massed extradition just isn't going to happen. But if that's the case, they've got to ensure that we've capped the problem by capping future illegal immigration. And what in this new bill truly promises that?
Amnesty is not 'middle of the road', unless you're an illegal alien. It's treason.