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To: Rennes Templar
I agree this is a good middle of the road. Deport the newbies. Make the others become citizens, Stop anymore traffic. If all 11 million illegals were instantly made felons, I think it would be a nightmare to enforce. Put them all in jail? Comncentration camps? Cattle trains to Mexico? I do think it should be a felony for anymore newbies who cross.

If employers are scared to death to ILLEGALLY employ anymore ILLEGAL aliens, then the jobs will go away. If hospitals, schools, and other entities are legislatively excused from being required to provide free benefits, or are prohibited from providing free benefits, to illegal aliens then all of the incentives for illegal aliens to remain here will go away and they will deport themselves. Requiring that they return to their home countries to apply for LEGAL immigration will become a further incentive for them to leave and come back in a controlled manner. Setting a deadline for them to have to be out of the country and stating that anyone caught here illegally after that date would be permanently prohibited from ever obtaining legal status would provide a further disincentive for staying here illegally and they would go home. If we don't make each and every person here illegally get the hell out and come back under our terms, then we're admitting that our laws don't matter, our sovereign borders are worthless, and that America lacks the courage to protect itself from the invasion that has brought over 20 million criminal invaders inside our borders.

100 posted on 04/06/2006 8:50:10 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

"we're admitting that our laws don't matter,"

Amnesty and pardons a have a history in our country. Using it does not weaken other laws. Amnesty is the flip side of the justice coin, which is the mercy of the law. Illegals who are contributing to our economy, working menial labor and are law abiding may deserve amnesty. To want to deport all 20 million is unpractical and fanatical.


304 posted on 04/06/2006 9:29:54 AM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: Spiff

You are wrong about employers being scared to death of hiring illegals. Here's how they "do" it. Legal Mexicans, or those with green cards are hired on in mosdest jobs, but make 100,000 a year. All of them have ten jillion relatives in Mexico who come here and are are not only put up, but hired by their relative and paid with cash under the table using most of the 100,000 They have destroyed our business since we can't compete with construction companies who get hundreds of employees at 5-7 dollars an hour. These companies don't have to pay workmen comp. or anything else. We're legal and our records are inspected, but if these people get in trouble, they just pop over the border 'till the heat's off. They then reenter with different names.


308 posted on 04/06/2006 9:31:27 AM PDT by texaslil (and)
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