Posted on 04/06/2006 8:33:43 AM PDT by STARWISE
And so have native born Americans, what's your point.
I am not a liar - there are a dozen on the thread I provided, but that is not the first time I've asked the question, so yes, Virginia, there are "dozens" (at least) here at FR - my "experiment" was never intended to prove a majority.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians and other Eastern Europeans, as with the Irish are here illegally in massive numbers.
They blend in, they speak good English, and are very accepted.
That's the part I don't like about this debate. It isn't about the poor Mexicans whose government doesn't want to lift to a higher level; it's about our arrogant government not giving a fig about the real concerns and fears of citizens.
Weren't the 9/11 attackers "illegal aliens" too?!
Amen! Don't worry too much - I didn't get included on the pinko list either ; )
Senate voting now on Hagel/Martinez Amendment
CSPAN 2
Mr. Martinez voted NO ---- and it is his amendment.
I see the critical point sailed over your head yet again. Namely, the wall does not have to be airtight - it would be one component of a larger enforcement.
Using your logic, we shouldn't bother with prisons, because convicts escape occasionally.
Well that is up for discussion. IIRC, all 19 homicide hijackers entered the US legally, but some overstayed their visas(thus making them illegal), but they weren't also truly and collqually illegal, since they entered the country to learn how to fly planes and kill innocent Americans and had money, while the standard American English colloquialism for illegal, is a Mexican or Hispanic, who sneaks over the border and just wants to get a job at such repectable professions such as vegetable picking or construction.
But sometimes idealougues try to blur the lines.
Prisons are not a waste of resources. Even a 95% effective barrier would be.
Mr. Hagel votes NO.
Okay, color me confused. Hagel and Martinez voted "no" on their own amendment?!
It will pass, or he wouldn't have voted "no". Then our side finally has a bill - your side still has HR 4437 - call it "even".
I guess it depends on what you consider to be important.
Obviously.
Their total disregard for the will of the American people is disgusting.
I think they knew it was not going to pass and they wanted to be on the majority side of the vote to move for reconsideration, which I think is what they are doing at the moment.
All this parliamentary cr@p makes my brain hurt.
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