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To: unionblue83
re :but there is no doubt that Islam is fundamentally flawed and has not made the transitions, if you will, to modernity that the other religions, Judaism, Christianity, etc. have made.

I have no argument with this I totally agree with you 100%.

Also I agree they will do there best to thwart our plans in Iraq, Afghanistan and other present and future trouble spots. That is the nature of this war.

President Bush said it was going to be a long hard haul we are only three/four years into the campaign Iraq is staring to sort itself out, the Iraqi Army is taking on more of the fighting and security, Iran has to rely on Non Islamic countries for support.

The Palestinian campaign has slowed down their brightest and best in jail or eliminated by the IDF is what are classic examples of the surgical strike.

In Europe we have woken up to the Islamic threat and are police and intelligence services have started to target and arrest them, this includes those who finance them, logistics as well as the foot soldiers.

There is still more to be done, I am not saying it over bar the shouting, but it is not the doom and gloom that some here feel it is.

There are those who are probably scared stiff, but there are others who I feel are using the Islamic threat to push forward other agendas.

After all a totally scared population is much more easier to manipulate.

465 posted on 04/07/2006 4:25:25 AM PDT by tonycavanagh (We got plenty of doomsayers where are the truth sayers)
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To: tonycavanagh

I don't buy into the doom and gloom argument either. And, I do feel that Europe may finally be coming around to understanding the nature of their threat. The IDF and the Mossad are examples I believe that we need to emulate in their tactics as well their strategies; I believe that we are in the arenas that most of us will never know. And thank God for that. This is not a war for the squeamish and is arguably a clash of two very different cultures, influenced by many small but not insignificant other differences. Your last statement I agree with 100% and there is plenty of history to back it up. I just enjoyed the piece from my old sci-fi reading days but I won't sit up at night waiting for my "Time Traveler" to show up!


466 posted on 04/07/2006 4:32:47 AM PDT by unionblue83
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