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Posted on 04/05/2006 9:33:51 PM PDT by Coleus
PHILADELPHIA -- Republicans in Washington are always willing to weigh in on the issues that are important to their conservative base -- Iraq, immigration, taxes, federal spending, the Medicare drug plan, the Dubai ports deal, you name it.
But, lately, hardly anybody in the GOP camp seems eager to address the historic event that transpired this month out on the high plains and now threatens to roll eastward, to the U.S. Supreme Court. It is, of course, abortion. For the party of the elephant, the new South Dakota law -- which prohibits the procedure for every woman in the state, unless she is dying -- is truly the elephant in the room.
It puts Republican politicians, especially those seeking the 2008 presidential nomination, squarely on the spot. If they side with conservatives -- who tend to vote heavily in the primaries, and who generally hope that the South Dakota law will be a weapon to overturn Roe v. Wade -- they risk alienating the independent voters who often swing November elections and generally desire that the right to legal abortion be preserved.
That explains why not a single Republican with White House aspirations has declared that the South Dakota law should be the model for an ultimate ban on abortions nationwide. It's a crossroads moment in the 33-year-old debate. Grass-roots conservatives are clearly forcing the issue, hoping this law might ultimately find a receptive audience in Washington on a high court now staffed with two Bush appointees.
South Dakota Gov. Mike Rounds calls the law "a direct frontal assault" on the landmark 1973 ruling. Yet, even ardent foes of abortion acknowledge that the issue is dicey especially for Republicans, who appear to have the most to lose. Jack Pitney, a former national Republican official and Capitol Hill staffer who closely tracks GOP politics, called the abortion law "a delicate situation for the Republicans."
He said, "It makes a lot of them nervous. It's one thing to just talk about banning abortion -- and they do that all the time, because it's a great way to fire up the base and raise money. But it's another thing to actually ban abortion nationwide. "Because that would raise all kinds of uncomfortable questions that could hurt the party politically -- such as, if this is truly a crime, whom do you jail? Very few Republican candidates want to answer that question."
I agree 100% the rape must be reported with a police report and everything. possibly also make the victim take a lie detector test, if she doesn't know who the rapist was.
she will remember the rape forever, but to be reminded of it all the time is another story. I remember my father spanking me with a belt(I deserved it) but im not reminded of it everyday.
Actually, I'm involved in some of the fight against abuse agains women.
The lie detector is used as a tool against the criminal, not as a tool to harm the innocent.
At one of the workshops, we learned that in a nearby Texas college town, they are requesting that victims take a lie detector test, because the defense caves when they are informed of a reliable, supportive test.
Why should a rape victim be punished for 6-7 months if she doesn't want to carry the child?
I was advocating the lie detector test in cases where no bad guy is identified, like if a girl was raped by a stranger. This way a girl couldn't just lie and say she was raped by someone just to get an abortion.
A red herring (blame the victim) that is completely eliminated if the only exception is to save the life of the mother.
I'm sure you remember the false story that was supposedly the justification behind Roe v. Wade. What right has anyone to deny a woman her choice, if the child is a child, but we'll allow abortion for some women who are not in danger?
Then what is it to kill the mother to save the life of the baby?
Why should a rape victim be punished for 6-7 months if she doesn't want to carry the child?
Because we don't always have lives that are perfect and in the overall plan that God has for us adds in some struggle which makes all of us stronger in the end. She will be thanked in heaven. Do I think it is fair? No really, but we don't have a choice in making a decision that kills another human being (at least we shouldn't).
depends if the mother is consenting to the taking of her life, in that case it would be her sacrificing her life for the babies life.
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Cowards to the truth.
As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.
CBR is doing a great work all across the nation. I wish many thousands more folks would support their efforts. It would change the country.
Their multi-state work helped President Bush and Republicans win in 2004.
When faced with the horrors of abortion via actual photographs, most (normal) people finally admit it is the actual killing of a baby.
Here is the link again if anyone else is interested:
http://www.abortionno.org/
Thanks for the ping!
SHOW an abortion, with no narration or censorship, on national television. THEN we will be ready, as a nation, to discuss this.
You absolutely cannot miss this site - a spinoff done by a CBR person:
Thanks for that link. Looks good.
Yes, CBR is doing some of the most important work in our country to date.
It is hard to believe most Americans have never seen photos of abortions/aborted babies.
I think some people are hiding from the truth of it -- they just won't look, knowing one look would change their long-held position of "choice".........(or especially those who want to allow abortions for certain situations).
There is ONLY ONE sustainable basis in our common law for terminating a pregnancy, self defense ... and it applies even in 'incest' and rape. But even that termination ought not carry an automatic death sentence on an alive but unborn child if it is possible to continue the pregnancy to a preemie birth without substantially raising the mortality risk to the female victim of the rapist's crime.
No I think this is wishful thinking.
Abortion is consistently a base winner.
I think the democrats are sowing these delusional sees because they are in terror abortion will be returned to the states.
The fear a death or resignation.
This is a base winner issue.
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