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Government Goons Murder Puppies!The drug war goes to the dogs.
Reason ^ | April 2006 | Radley Balko

Posted on 04/05/2006 12:57:02 PM PDT by JTN

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To: beezdotcom

Please focus your anger for those of us that can't bear to see little puppies hurt, in the right direction...to those horrible thugs that did this - and we'll BOTH win.


21 posted on 04/05/2006 1:26:01 PM PDT by NordP (I've seen enough "24" to know there are many things a President cannot talk about, yet must do.)
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To: SampleMan

For the most part, the war on drugs is a local communities way of receiving extra cash and assets siezed in their raids.
Yea Man! Them cops are always haslin us honest citizens, just because we're cookin up a little meth, or enjoying a few rocks of crack. Why don't they concentrate on all those wild eyed robbers that will shoot a store clerk for $20, instead of picking on us (inhale) honest dudes. Anybody know where I can get $300 quick? I really need it.
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Tell you what sparky...drive thru TX, MS, GA, FL, AR, MO with $3000 in cash in your pocket and see if you still have it when you exit the states. If you get pulled over...you won't


22 posted on 04/05/2006 1:33:20 PM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Bank Robber means Wealth Redistribution)
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To: HairOfTheDog

ping


23 posted on 04/05/2006 1:35:26 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: jmc813; beezdotcom; thoughtomator
I love dogs too, but the thug stepping on the head of baby during a search for drugs trumps the puppy slaughter in my book.

When are people going to wake up and call for an end to this government sanctioned violence?

As thoughtomator says above, the precedent has been set - we have no rights in this country anymore when the JBTs can literally walk over your babies and kill your puppies because you may or may not have some contraband.
24 posted on 04/05/2006 1:35:42 PM PDT by citizenK (petit tyranny is still tyranny)
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To: Sender

Although I'm sure to catch heck for my #18 post. I agree with you. In fact, after the Ruby Ridge incident, I have wondered many times about the act of preimptively shooting someone's dog. If my dog were shot in such a scenario I would consider it an attack on my life (why else kill the dog). If the police were to mistakely raid my house, I knew it was the police as they came in, and they shot my dog, I'd wait until charges had been dropped, reparations made, and then I'd go find the policemen, while he was off duty, and get my self arrested for assault.

I find this whole business of shooting dogs however, to be a completely separate issue from enforcing the laws against illegal drugs.


25 posted on 04/05/2006 1:37:22 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: JTN
Joe Arpaio, self-proclaimed “toughest sheriff in America.”

My face turned purple when I saw the "Penn & Teller's Bullsh!t" episode about the WOD, where this arrogant piece of crap was defending prohibition. What makes him "tough"? Is he a 10th-degree black belt, a Golden Gloves champion, a war hero -- or just a heavily armed government bully?

As for the dogs...I'm torn on who's more deserving of the label "dogs" - the family pets, or the psychotic WOD invaders who break in and kill those pets.

26 posted on 04/05/2006 1:38:04 PM PDT by Freedom_no_exceptions (No actual, intended, or imminent victim = no crime. No exceptions.)
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To: beltfed308
The operation ended with the targeted home in flames and exactly one suspect in custody—for outstanding traffic violations.

D@mn.

That'll teach you to obey traffic regulations.

27 posted on 04/05/2006 1:39:00 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
What the hell does Maricopa County, Arizona need an APC for?

Probably because the local crack houses are hardened to the point that you need one to make entry.

Or it could be watching the experience of the LAPD in the Hollywood shootout having officers down and no way to reach them.

28 posted on 04/05/2006 1:41:01 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: freepatriot32

No thanks... I love dogs and hate police mistakes and police misuse of force as much as anyone... but this is just an anti-cop hit piece.


29 posted on 04/05/2006 1:41:46 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Hobbit Hole knives for soldiers! www.freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: MadeInAmerica

How did you know my name was Sparky? I live in Florida, grew up in Missouri (return regularly), and drive through Georgia on a regular basis. I've never had money taken from me by the police. Nor have I been detained for a search.

I do however have to chase crack heads off of my investment properties though, and never work on one anymore without being armed.


30 posted on 04/05/2006 1:43:00 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: JTN

A BATF agent testified before Congress that they shot the Branch Davidians' dog and her puppies. This was before the human to human gunfight started.

The MSM decided to ignore this.


31 posted on 04/05/2006 1:44:31 PM PDT by Poincare
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To: jmc813
I've noticed that JBT's tend to be real pussies by nature.

I agree. People of limited skill, limited intelligence who are emboldened by a gun and a badge. I wonder if JBT raids are more common in "gun free" states like CA and the northeast corridor? I know that if someone came crashing through my door they would be met with a serious amount of return fire regardless of what they were wearing.
32 posted on 04/05/2006 1:45:31 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
No thanks... I love dogs and hate police mistakes and police misuse of force as much as anyone... but this is just an anti-cop hit piece.

You think the actions of the police in the situations described in the article were appropriate?

33 posted on 04/05/2006 1:45:48 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: SampleMan
I find this whole business of shooting dogs however, to be a completely separate issue from enforcing the laws against illegal drugs.

If crack and meth houses were not always guarded by pits and rots police would not be shooting them. Cops do not like to discharge their firearms as it results in hours of paperwork and potential liability.

Remember this story comes from Slate so you can assume that 90% of it is BS.

34 posted on 04/05/2006 1:48:59 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: MPJackal
Regardless of what I think about the tactics discussed here, your statement is totally untrue. I'm not sure if it is an outright lie or just your ignorance.

Yeah right. What he said is common knowledge. You have evidence to the contrary?

35 posted on 04/05/2006 1:50:07 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: SampleMan

Sorry, make that "Reason" but it the same as Slate.


36 posted on 04/05/2006 1:50:29 PM PDT by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: usurper
Remember this story comes from Slate

Um ... No, it doesn't.

38 posted on 04/05/2006 1:51:11 PM PDT by JTN ("I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum. And I'm all out of bubble gum.")
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To: HairOfTheDog
but this is just an anti-cop hit piece.

I disagree. The article castigates the tactics of killing family dogs during drug raids. It happens so often that I suspect it is part of their training, part of securing the premises. Kill the dogs before they attack you for invading their territory. It's also a great way to shock people in the home you are invading, to cripple them emotionally, and make them more compliant during the "heat of battle" (so-to-speak).

If you are going to say this is an anti-cop piece, then any article highlighting the abuses of police during drug raids is an anti-cop hit piece. This story is not credible? Frankly, with the shift in policing from "keeping the peace" to paramilitarization, it's the police who lack credibility in our so-called free society.

39 posted on 04/05/2006 1:53:39 PM PDT by citizenK (petit tyranny is still tyranny)
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To: JTN
During the Clinton administration we called them "jack-booted thugs". Guess that ain't PC no more.

Please add me to the libertarian list. Thanks!

40 posted on 04/05/2006 1:54:09 PM PDT by The Shootist
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