Posted on 04/05/2006 5:39:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
There are so many difficult aspects of the illegal alien problem that it becomes tempting to throw up our hands and step away from it, but we cant do this.
Were America. We dont lose. We dont run from problems, we fix them.
The invasion of illegal aliens is one of the most serious problems we face today. We will not, we can not step away from it. We can not hide ourselves in a corner and wait until someone else solves this problem. We are that someone else. There is no someone else.
Our cities and towns are being flooded by an invasion of illegal aliens Each day we sit by and tolerate this invasion, is another day that makes this problem worse.
The last thing we need now is another study or another general amnesty. We dont need to study this problem or make it go away with another amnesty. We know what we need to do. We need to quickly focus on the core of the problem and fix it.
To fix this problem, we have to take the simplest, quickest and most direct action we can devise.
If America was an overweight person, how would we go about fixing the problem? Of all the best methods to lose weight, the simplest and most direct would be to: A) cut down intake; and B) reduce what is already there. Any diet not based on these two principles is doomed to failure.
To immediately start solving our illegal alien problems, America needs to cut the intake of invaders and drain away the ones we have already.
To cut our intake of illegal aliens we have to close our borders down. Currently our borders are a joke. We have to wipe the smile off the invaders faces by getting immediate and total control over who comes into our county and under what circumstances they come and how long they stay.
We have to be guided by the Border Patrol Agents who are actually already working in the field. They know what will work and what will not work. They are an asset we can not overlook. Lets use them. Lets also back up the Immigration and Naturalization Service ( INS ). Lets make it a felony to interfere in anyway with the enforcement efforts of the INS. This provision would apply to private citizens and public officials as well.
That leaves the question of how to reduce the 12.5 million illegal aliens we have in our societal body already. We cant wait another day. Reducing this number should be the most important of our things to do list.
If getting this done means doing a few things we might not really want to do. So what? If we dont change our ways we will eventually die as a nation. Yes die as a nation. If we cant control our borders, we cant protect ourselves from those who have sworn to murder us.
What to do to reduce the presence of Illegal Aliens in our country.
First lets refocus on the cold hard fact that this is OUR COUNTRY.
We dont need people who want to come here and demand this and demand that. We dont particularly care for having Mexican flags waved in our face. America is not a free country because King George gave us our freedom. Americans paid for it with our blood and personal treasure. Americans grabbed freedom at the point of a gun.
We paid hundreds of thousands of lives so we could free the slaves we had in our country. The Confederates were not talked out of keeping slaves. We forced that decision on them. Its the kind of thing that makes us better than other countries. Its why we are exceptional.
We dont speak Japanese or German today because Japan and Germany decided to granted us the option to speak English and remain a free country. We had to grind them to dust and risk everything we had to remain free.
American is a great country that has earned the right to choose to let millions of immigrants into our American family or deny entry to those who wont follow our laws. We can voluntarily decide to share the freedom we have won with our blood sweat and tears. We damn well ought to be able to stop anyone who just wants to sneak in and take it for granted. We have to remind the world that if you are not an American you are not entitled to Americas benefits.
We are a nation of immigrants and we welcome more than a million legal immigrants a year, but we also have laws just as other countries have laws. We dont like being pushed around by pipsqueak countries that cant take care of their own people. If we choose to bring other people in, thats our decision. If we decide to keep people out, thats our business, not Mexicos.
We didnt produce the fine young men and women who have given their lives for American freedom from 1775 until to today, so some spineless politician can throw their sacrifices in the toilet, hang out a white flag, or a Mexican flag and roll over for an illegal alien invasion.
Plain truth about who is the problem
When we talk about the people who are in our country illegally, we must identify them for what they are: Illegal Aliens. They are not undocumented workers. If you forget your drivers license and drive a bus for a living, you are an undocumented worker. Illegal Aliens are what these people are and thats what they must be called or we might lose sight of our problem.
Just as importantly, these people are PEOPLE. We have to recognize that the largest portion of these folks really dont pose a threat to us. They merely want to access the benefits of working and living in the best country in the world without having contributed to our nation or having families that have done so. We are America so we must, and will, treat people more than fairly.
We must therefore find a way to drain these invaders off of our societal body, in the quickest and most efficient and humane method. As we do so we must keep focused on the fact that WE come first. IF and only if, we can extend some generous treatment toward these invaders without further jeopardizing our own freedom, should we extend them any favorable treatment.
Deporting 12.5 million people will be difficult but not impossible. The first thing we have to do is stop listening to the nay- sayers. We are America. We can do whatever we put our minds to. We just cant do it in a conventional manner.
The way to shrink our bloat of illegal aliens is to make staying here so difficult that these folks decide to leave on their own.
This can be accomplished by removing the very thing that brings them here: employment.
With the proper amount of backbone and resolve we can start to dry this problem up in a matter of months. To get this done we must be firm and unyielding in our efforts to save our lives and our country.
We must deal with the employers of illegal aliens in a way that will get a swift and sure message across. The message has to be: You employ illegal aliens and we will take swift and attention getting steps against you. We will make your life miserable.
Fines are not the way to achieve this desperately urgent turn around. In most instances, a fine would be merely added to the bottom line as a cost of doing business. Fines would do nothing to change behavior. To view this as a matter of money is to totally miss the point. We dont want money from violators of our laws. We want them to stop putting us and our nation in danger.
Heres what we must do:
On the first offense, a company that has been found to be employing illegal aliens would lead to its owner or CEO being sent to jail for 15 days. Any longer and juries will not convict. Everybody knows that. Any longer and the ACLU and the trial lawyers would have a feast on this process. Fifteen days is long enough to sting, but not so long that it would be worth paying $25,000 to a lawyer to beat the charge.
Beyond this, on the first finding of guilt all illegal workers would be allowed to stay for up to ninety days to finish work and personal business.
During this grace period the convicted employer would be required to pay these workers prevailing wages and benefits as if they were legal. That way they would be able to earn enough money to pay their own way home, and the lesson of why not to employ illegal aliens would be hammered home.
Illegal aliens would also be able to leave without incurring a penalty for having an INS violation on their record. That way they could preserve their ability to re-enter our country legally at some future time, if such an opportunity arises. If none ever does that would be their problem.
As this program moved forward and the fact that we mean business got out, it would encourage workers who come to realize that their days here are numbered, to turn in their employers so they can reap the benefits of this ease out plan. Increased penalties for illegal alien workers themselves would insure their cooperation.
Upon a second finding of guilt, the CEO or owner goes to jail for forty five days and the whole chain of command above the illegal workers goes to jail for fifteen days. This would cut off the foremen poll and make it likely that honest competitors will turn in the cheaters. There would also be no ease out grace period for the illegal workers involved.
Upon a third finding of guilt, the CEO or owner goes to jail for a year and a day. The foremen go to jail for another fifteen days and those that own more than 5% of the outstanding stock in the corporation go to jail for fifteen days. Aside from these sanctions, the offending corporation or company would have its assets seized to pay costs of administering this new law.
Whether we have the will to put this into law may be grounds for argument. Whether it would quickly cure the problem is not.
Hear, hear!!!
the problem is the backbone and the senate and congress and all the nay-sayers don't have one.
If we eliminate the demand for illegal labor, the illegals will deport themselves.
We'd hope this would be the case but, I suspect they want leave without a fight. Many will disappear into a more sinister underground society or use their fake IDs to become totally dependent on the welfare system.
The only problem I can see is an effective enforcement mechanism. Another federal department, with thousands of employees is the last thing we'd want. INS is way too small to handle it, but again, expanding a government agency is never a good thing.
1) Purge RINOs
"During this grace period the convicted employer would be required to pay these workers prevailing wages and benefits as if they were legal. That way they would be able to earn enough money to pay their own way home, and the lesson of why not to employ illegal aliens would be hammered home."
The best remedy - make the employers pay real wages...
While getting the boss out of the way might actually help at the local body shop....simultaneous loss of half of their employees could be fatal.
LOTS of very small business owners would find themselves having to look to other means to earn a living.
The long term results are worth it but short term dislocation will be greater than we like to admit to. ...
Tyson, on the other hand, will not miss a step.
One practical step would be to shut down the radio stations that are inciting the demonstrations which might possibly turn into riots.
The second would be to enforce the current laws. Period !!!
Other than the above, I whole heartedly agree with your stepwise approach and every point you offered.
Amen to that.
Two words: You're mad.
The first step is removing plausible excuses for not knowing that they are hiring illegal immigrants.
The RealId Act should help with this within the next couple years by making it easier to verify immigration status.
The IRS also needs to notify employers when the IRS gets a W2 with a SSN that isn't valid or doesn't match the name on the W2. If the IRS doesn't receive a proper correction or the get to many W2s with bad SSNs, they need to investigate.
On the first offense, a company that has been found to be employing illegal aliens would lead to its owner or CEO being sent to jail for 15 days.
Before you can impose criminal penalties on anyone you have to prove that they were complicit in the crime. You can and should toss the person responsible for the actual hiring of the illegal alien in jail if you can show that they should have been aware the person they hired was illegal.
However, unless you can prove that people higher up in the company were at least aware that it was happening, you can't hold them personally, criminally responsible.
Of course if you start tossing the people doing the hiring into jail, you might find that they are able to produce evidence that management was involved as part of a plea.
However, I still think the real key to discouraging employing illegal immigration, at least on a large scale is economic.
Let's look at a large farming operation as an example.
If immigration raids a large farm or even if they simply scare off all the illegal workers it has a broad effect.
Ideally you can catch and deport the illegal immigrants, impose stiff penalties, and bring criminal charges against complicit company employees. However, even if you just cause the illegal workers to leave you're going to have a huge effect that has widespread ripples.
If the crops don't get picked because there's suddenly a shortage of workers, it effects a lot more than just that farm.
If effects the wholesalers and retailers that buy those crops as well. Retailers need a steady supply of products to be efficient and make money. They need to know how much of the products they will receive and when and this is especially true of perishable items.
Large retailers these days don't just wait until a product is produced and then buy it and ship it to their stores.
They make agreements to buy crops before they are even harvested and they look very carefully at the company's business practices to make sure that company is going to be able to deliver what they promise.
If we make it so that hiring illegal immigrants creates a real risk of a farm not being able to deliver those products when they promise, the retailers will help make sure that companies either don't hire significant numbers of illegal aliens, or they won't take the risk of doing business with them.
Farms in general often borrow huge sums of money against the profits they will eventually make by selling their crops. Make hiring illegal immigrants risky, and the banks will want assurances that farms aren't hiring significant numbers of illegal aliens.
So why isn't the threat of enforcement making retailers and banks nervous now? Or why didn't it do so in the past?
I think it has done so in the past. When the INS went and did raids or started doing significant checks into the immigration status of workers, there was a huge backlash from the business community.
Not only did the companies who hire illegal immigrants face losing a lot of money, those they supply and those who lend them money did as well.
There's a wide economic impact in changing from non-enforcement to aggressive enforcement. A lot of businesses that didn't think the illegal immigration directly effected them suddenly realize that they've already made significant investments that are threatened by immigration enforcement, even though they've really done nothing wrong.
The political effects of that are easy to predict and have been seen whenever there has been a push to do better enforcement of immigration laws within our country.
The government needs to make it very clear to the entire business community that immigration law is going to be aggressively enforced. They need to make sure that businesses understand that they need to consider the effects on their supply chains and the risks to their investments now.
It wouldn't even hurt to announce when the new big push to enforce immigration law will start and give businesses a chance to take appropriate measures, not because it will benefit the companies that have acted illegally, but because doing so will benefit their legal employees and our economy in general. A harsh transition to enforcing immigration laws inside our country could hurt a lot of people economically that aren't to blame.
However, the laws must be enforced, and people who try and prevent them from being enforced need to be charged criminally for doing so.
Lets also back up the Immigration and Naturalization Service ( INS ). Lets make it a felony to interfere in anyway with the enforcement efforts of the INS. This provision would apply to private citizens and public officials as well.
I suspect that it already is illegal, and quite possibly a felony. However, such laws just don't seem to get enforced, especially against public officials. We don't hold public officials accountable for trying to subvert the law in most cases unless we can prove that they are directly taking bribes.
In my opinion, holding Public Officials criminally accountable for purposefully trying to subvert the law would do much more to fight corruption that the farcical campaign finance laws.
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