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How did protesters mobilize that fast? (Involvement of Cardinal Mahony )
Philly.Com ^ | 4/4/2006 | David Sedeno

Posted on 04/04/2006 6:34:13 AM PDT by petkus

Spanish-language media played key roles in the hot debate over immigration legislation

As the immigration debate heats up across the country, Spanish-language media and some of their key players are being both applauded and chastised for their roles in the process.

Last week, many people nationwide were surprised at the speed with which hundreds of thousands of people took to the streets in what seemed a coordinated effort to protest what they called punitive proposed House legislation. That legislation seeks stiffer penalties for people who are in the country illegally and for those helping them.

Protesters, including students who walked out of school, claimed partial victory as a Senate committee approved a bill without those provisions.

So how did these demonstrations get mobilized?

Organizers used Spanish-language media, including television, radio, newspapers and Web sites, to keep people informed about events and marches. They are continuing to do so as the debate winds through the Senate and as organizers in North Texas are planning a march Sunday in downtown Dallas.

Even while the war on terror and in Iraq have taken center stage in the mainstream news media during the last three years, immigration reform has remained a hot topic among the Spanish-language media and their audiences.

Across the country last week, Spanish-language newspapers, from large dailies to small weeklies, have written editorials on the apparent awakening of the "sleeping giant" and have called on Congress to craft a humane immigration bill. Television programs have replayed the mass demonstrations, and talk-show callers have debated the use of the Mexican flag in the protests.

Some of the Spanish-language media's most prominent names have found themselves in the forefront of the debate.

Jorge Ramos and Maria Elena Salinas, co-anchors of powerhouse Univision, dropped their usually objective delivery of the news on .

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KEYWORDS: aliens; bordelist; mexicanmahoney
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To: sinkspur; HiJinx
Hyperbole like this is just as silly as Mexicans marching through American streets with Mexican flags.

I guess you didn't pay attention. Here in CA, they held posters stating their intentions. At Montebello HS, they hoisted the Mexican flag, and underneath flew the American flag upside down. I didn't see you on those threads, discussing that act of insurrection. Mighty choosy, aren't we?

21 posted on 04/04/2006 7:43:46 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Here in CA, they held posters stating their intentions.

So? So does International ANSWER and CODE PINK. Only paranoids take such stuff seriously.

I didn't see you on those threads, discussing that act of insurrection. Mighty choosy, aren't we?

Yep. I stay away from ranting and raving and people who use the word "insurrection" to describe a march.

22 posted on 04/04/2006 7:48:35 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: sinkspur
Who's going to discipline a Roman Catholic Cardinal, especially when it's very likely that Pope Benedict XVI agrees with him?

Roger is a politician out for himself, first and foremost. He runs his fiefdom like the Clintons ran Washington. I've had to suffer the frustration off and on over the years, being in the Los Angeles Diocese. You don't think that Pope Benedict won't take that new broom to him? Ol' Rog has been playing the pedophile shuffle along with the rest of them. The Panzer Pope will get to him in good time.

Maybe I'll shoot an email over to the Vatican....

23 posted on 04/04/2006 7:48:40 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: sinkspur
Yep. I stay away from ranting and raving and people who use the word "insurrection" to describe a march.

Please reread my post. "Insurrection" referred to hanging the American flag upside down under the Mexican flag. Oh, you do realize that it took place on public grounds as well? What part of insurrection do you not understand? Marching? That's legal, unless you're a kid who is supposed to be in school. For adults in a position of authority to encourage schoolchildren to disobey, it is not only shameful, it is illegal.

24 posted on 04/04/2006 7:54:15 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (I care for my pets better than Vincente Fox cares for his own citizens)
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To: petkus; onyx; Mo1
Mahony is an infiltrator, a blatant Marxist who is polluting the Catholic Church, who is not only trying to dismantle his part of the Church, but his portion of the country.

It's all part of their game.

It doesn't surprise me that his name is mentioned in the same breath, as those other bozos south of the border you mentioned.

25 posted on 04/04/2006 7:56:54 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
What part of insurrection do you not understand?

I understand the definiton of the word perfectly.

You don't.

26 posted on 04/04/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
It is time for those clergy to be disciplined by their churches. They are way out of line, and an embarassment to the rest of us.

Could not be BUMPED loud enough!

27 posted on 04/04/2006 8:00:46 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: kstewskis


WHOA! That'll get me into some serious trouble.
He is polluting our Church and pandering to mob rule.


28 posted on 04/04/2006 8:03:35 AM PDT by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: Vicomte13
The Catholic Church didn't enslave Latin America any more than the Baptist Church enslaved the American South.

The catholic church didn't directly enslave the people, but obviously turned a blind eye to it or was in direct approval that it take place. Why can the populace of these countries NOT see that? The catholic church with all of its influence could have said, "This is wrong. Stop it."

29 posted on 04/04/2006 8:05:40 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Vicomte13
Because it did not happen as you have postulated.

Oh, but it DID happen as history states it happened. The Spanish (strict catholics) enslaved the people of Latin America for some 300 years (exactly 300 in Mexico). One of their priests, Miguel Hidalgo, started the revolution in Mexico against that practice and other oppression of the people. He was executed after a CATHOLIC tribunal. Now, answer the question without obfuscating or lying.

30 posted on 04/04/2006 8:08:32 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: onyx
It is what it is, my friend

I take no joy in saying it, but it is what it is.

31 posted on 04/04/2006 8:09:53 AM PDT by kstewskis (The Gospel of McPain: thugs, murderers, and terrorists doing the jobs Americans just won't do!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Why can the populace of these countries NOT see that? The catholic church with all of its influence could have said, "This is wrong. Stop it."

One billion Roman Catholics, in your view, are dupes, and you are the enlightened one.

Yeah. Right.

32 posted on 04/04/2006 8:10:50 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Mighty choosy, aren't we?

I am convinced some of these fellas are catholic priests. (i.e. sinkspur, petronski, etc.) The only defenders of what is going on now would have to be a catholic priest. Any lay member with sense can see what is about to happen and acknowledge it is wrong. Regardless of the outcome, the catholic church will remain to work its sedition, priests are not all that worried.

33 posted on 04/04/2006 8:11:42 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: sinkspur
One billion Roman Catholics, in your view, are dupes, and you are the enlightened one.

May the Heavens be my judge, but you write the truth.

34 posted on 04/04/2006 8:13:12 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Regardless of the outcome, the catholic church will remain to work its sedition, priests are not all that worried.

Are you Tony Alamo?

35 posted on 04/04/2006 8:13:53 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
May the Heavens be my judge, but you write the truth.

The Heavens, if they're doing anything, are laughing at you.

36 posted on 04/04/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: kstewskis

You really think he's a Marxist?
He is talking the talk.


37 posted on 04/04/2006 8:15:27 AM PDT by onyx (Elections are in November, 06 ---- 08 can wait!)
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To: conservativecorner
Americans cannot comprehend why Congress feels a need to add a guest worker program

I'm surprised that the pundit class is having such a hard understanding the motivations behind the political movements in DC.

Representative republican forms of governement cannot withstand internal invasions - throughout history, all great civilizations have fallen from within.

The reason is quite simple: politicians have the same desires as you and I. Vocal, active immigrants represent a growing constituency that must be satisfied in order to meet the representatives' primary objective: job security.

It only takes a small reading of history to understand how this is all going to play out in the end.

38 posted on 04/04/2006 8:15:53 AM PDT by lemura
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To: sinkspur
The Heavens, if they're doing anything, are laughing at you.

In the Day of Judgement, we'll find out.

39 posted on 04/04/2006 8:16:52 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: lemura
The reason is quite simple: politicians have the same desires as you and I. Vocal, active immigrants represent a growing constituency that must be satisfied in order to meet the representatives' primary objective: job security.

It only takes a small reading of history to understand how this is all going to play out in the end.

Yeah. Just read about the Irish, Italian, and Chinese immigrations to America.

Everything worked out beautifully.

40 posted on 04/04/2006 8:20:20 AM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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