Posted on 04/03/2006 2:31:56 PM PDT by kiriath_jearim
Boom times on underworld gun market
By EDMUND BURKE 02apr06
ILLEGAL guns can be bought "as easily as a pack of cigarettes" through a booming weapons black market in Queensland.
Despite official denials, The Sunday Mail has been told that weapons are freely available through underworld dealers.
Prices start at $300 for a pistol and range to $4000 for the firepower of an Uzi sub-machinegun, capable of firing 10 heavy-calibre rounds a second.
Police Minister Judy Spence assured Parliament this week that tough laws had brought gun crime under control.
However, Opposition Leader Lawrence Springborg, leading criminologist Paul Wilson, retired hero policeman John "Bluey" O'Gorman, legal gun dealers and even an ex-bank robber have confirmed the illegal trade is thriving.
The revelations about the extent of the firearms black market comes as Australia approaches the 10th anniversary on April 28 of the Port Arthur massacre in which a lone gunman killed 35 people.
It also follows questions about how rival bikie members involved in a shootout at a Gold Coast resort two weekends ago were able to obtain their weapons.
Some of the bikies had travelled from interstate and police have confirmed they were under surveillance in the lead-up to the incident, in which five people were either shot or stabbed.
In a statement to The Sunday Mail, the Queensland Police Service maintained there was no black market in weapons, conceding illegal guns were only sold "from time to time" by individuals.
Unlawful possession of a firearm carries a maximum penalty of seven years in jail or a $22,500 fine .
Yet an underworld source who contacted The Sunday Mail said "guns are everywhere" in a flourishing black market.
"Buying a firearm is as easy as buying a packet of cigarettes if you have the right connections," the source said.
"You can get anything you want. The new laws didn't change anything except push them further underground."
The unnamed source said a Glock 19 pistol could be bought in Brisbane for $2500. The Sunday Mail was sent a photograph of the weapon.
The high-powered Glock is similar to those issued to police. It has a shorter-than-average barrel length of 100mm, making it easily concealed and more attractive to criminals.
The source said a lightweight Uzi sub-machinegun could be bought "from the right people" in Brisbane for $4000. The Israeli-designed 9mm automatics are favoured by special forces troops -- and crime gangs -- around the world.
Mr Springborg confirmed that police officers had privately told him of an estimated "hundreds of thousands" of weapons on the black market.
"They tell me that they get traded around the bars, among organised criminal outfits and between the bikies," he said.
"It's organised and there is lots of it. It's not just one or two -- there is a whole subculture that exists and anyone that says it isn't is just telling fibs."
Mr Springborg called on the Government to target gun dealing "rings".
"The resources aren't put in to the covert operations like they are with checking licensed shooters because they are the easy touches," he said.
Decorated former policeman John "Bluey" O'Gorman said denying the existence of a guns black market was "insulting the intelligence of average people".
"It's always going to be there -- anyone who tries to trot out figures to say the black market has been reduced is really fooling themselves," he said.
"The figures might be going down in the detection rate but there is no possible way that anyone could claim to have accurate figures of the number of criminals who have got handguns because they don't participate in surveys.
"Some groups around the place have no difficulty in getting a handgun.
"People who have a criminal lifestyle don't care about any legislation. "
Bond University criminologist Dr Paul Wilson said there was "universal agreement" that it was easy for criminals to buy guns in Queensland.
"There are huge numbers of illegal handguns circulating on the black market," he said.
"It's not very difficult getting a handgun. If you are a semi-professional criminal and you know which pub to go to it is that easy. People have told me that, people I trust."
Dr Wilson said he believed weapons continued to be smuggled through Customs and that separate parts could be mailed to people and then reassembled in Australia. He said home-made handguns were also available on Brisbane's streets.
Reformed armed robber and journalist Bernie Matthews revealed that a weapon he was arrested with in 1996 had been bought in Queensland.
"I have no problem going on the record to say there is a black market in weapons in Queensland," he said. "It was easy when I was a bank robber and my sources give me no reason to think that it is any more difficult now."
9mm (+P) is now "heavy-calibre rounds"?
No kidding. 9mm is a peashooter round.
markets don't dissapear.
Or honest citizens who don't wish to cause any cases of the vapors amongst the hoplophobes.
"Unlawful possession of a firearm carries a maximum penalty of seven years in jail or a $22,500 fine."
Sad, honest Aussie gunowners made into statutory criminals if they didn't surrender their firearms. Aussie citizens made into sheep and the crooks still have guns. It should be the reverse or at least an even fight.
However you can bet that all this brouhaha is to stir up the sheeple in order to pass still more gun control. It hurts so bad, they want to do it again.
"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns"!
The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed—where the government refuses to stand for reelection and silences those who protest; where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees. However improbable these contingencies may seem today, facing them unprepared is a mistake a free people get to make only once.
JUDGE ALEX KOZINSKI
Ping
$2500 Oz is a criminal price for a Glock 19.
Well, there are some exotic rounds in 9mm, but these are exotic.
$2AU = apx. $1US, BTW.
Well, yeah. =^)
If the Uzi really does fire "heavy calibre rounds", and if it still has that rapid cyclic rate, those Aussie crooks must be of truly "Ausome' size in order to prevent muzzle climb.
Or are we simply reading a gun grabber's 'muzzle blast' (that which occurs when the muzzle is taken off the gun grabber)?
Sounds a lot like Hoover and the FBI insisting that there was no "Mafia" or "organized crime" in the US.
Decorated former policeman John "Bluey" O'Gorman said denying the existence of a guns black market was "insulting the intelligence of average people".
Shhhh. Don't tell our "superiors" that average people have any intelligence. Wouldn't want to puncture their illusions whilst we go about our business.
This kind of attitude reminds me very much of the old Soviet Union, where the average person had a saying: "They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work." The bottom line is that the government is made up of a bunch of arrogant, lying, elitist bastages who have nothing but contempt for the average person. This extends across geographical and ideological boundaries. There are, of course, a few exceptions to this general rule - and thank G-d for them - but they are generally notable for their rarity.
Oh, and I am positively HAPPY AND GLEEFUL that there's a thriving black market in weapons in Australia. It gives me hope for the US if and when Hillary gets in, names Schumer as Attorney General, and they try a gun confiscation.
***No kidding. 9mm is a peashooter round.***
You will think "pea shooter" if you are ever hit with one.
I think "heavy-calibre" is Aussie-speak for "high-powered" - i.e., the media's knee-jerkism for any round other than a .22...
An Uzi or MP-5 on full auto will effectively shread an opponent real quick unless they have good body armour.
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