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Immigration has become high-stakes duel for GOP
Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | Apr. 03, 2006 | DICK POLMAN

Posted on 04/03/2006 11:14:33 AM PDT by Dubya

The furor over immigration that is raging in Congress, on radio talk shows, on cable TV shoutfests and in the conservative blogosphere is actually a high-stakes duel over the image and direction of the Republican Party.

Two powerful factions of the GOP coalition are warring openly -- a clash that threatens to further imperil the party's prospects the November congressional elections, while exacerbating internal tensions that could reignite during the 2008 presidential primaries.

The business lobby, which pumps big bucks into the GOP, wants a new law that would enable 11 million illegal immigrants to stay here and work. But if Congress goes that route, it risks prompting millions of grassroots conservatives -- who are already angry at President Bush's lavish federal spending, his Dubai ports deal and other perceived missteps -- to boycott Election Day. The party can ill afford a revolt by its base, especially because most independent voters, soured by the war in Iraq, don't seem enthused about voting Republican.

Kellyanne Conway, a conservative Republican pollster and strategist, said by phone Friday that a boycott is no idle threat: "This year, more and more would-be Republican voters are glomming on to any excuse they can find to stay home and send a message. If I was a Republican leader, I'd be very careful about banging on that beehive too many times. The immigration issue could be one more excuse to stay home."

Conservatives, furious about the guest worker ideas being floated in the Senate, generally want illegal immigrants treated as lawbreakers and sent home -- but that idea is also perilous. If Congress says yes, it risks sending a broadly anti-Hispanic message that could alienate the increasingly numerous Latino voters whom Bush and Karl Rove view as crucial to their party's future.

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1 posted on 04/03/2006 11:14:36 AM PDT by Dubya
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To: Dubya
California's "Save Our State" website

FYI for all you California FReepers out there.
2 posted on 04/03/2006 11:16:59 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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To: TheForceOfOne

Very nice website. Good luck. I am flying my American car flag again. I have to remove it when I park. Someone takes it if I don't remove it.


3 posted on 04/03/2006 11:20:30 AM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: Dubya
Conservatives generally want illegal immigrants treated as lawbreakers and sent home

Not me. I have no problem with guest workers as long as it has nothing to do with citizenship. They are two separate issues. Now, as to guest workers themselves, I also believe that WE have the right to determine who WE want to invite. People who invited themselves shouldn't be rewarded with (1) jobs & (2) citizenship.

4 posted on 04/03/2006 11:24:57 AM PDT by lemura
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To: Dubya

Okay, I went to North Brunswick New Jersey, my Mexican wetback friends told me they lived on Veyage Drevee. (Village Drive) I got to the complex, all windows covered with alumminum foil, and I couldn't get in, until other undocumented workers who knew me allowed me entrance.
Inside the apartment were 8 adults sharing 2 bedrooms. They came for 3 countries, no one has any idea which undocumented worker has left a wife. It was original how they had boundararies in the refrigerator, and took turns using bedrooms, as some worked the night shift.
The LANDLADY, an undocumented gal worked under ONE alias name, and had to leave to go report UNEMPLOYED under another alias name. The friends we went to see soaked the system for a birth, free room and board at the hospital. IT IRKED me that my mother-in-law, a Registered Nurse in California had made $10 too much money in REAL life, and couldn't afford a SLEEVE for her arm, she had cancer lymphatic nodes removed and Medi-Cal couldn't pay her when her whole life she paid into the system.
Now, we have a U.S. born baby, they came to Mexico, and prepare to leave at the end of this month, leaving behind a baby boy. They plan in 5 months to have him smuggled into the country, now that he has a U.S. Passport?
I've written letters to the Justice Dept, to the White House, and to Senators, to Chairman of Immigration committess. Does anyone on EARTH have any idea how swamped and understaffed the people are at the Immigration Naturalization Service actually are. Beleive me, I know.
What makes my cats cry, and my roosters scream, is that NO ONE of the Conservative Party has actually done a little social/family test to consider what MESS we are getting ourselves into when we encourage DADS to leave little boys, and send money back to the nest.
I live in Mexico, and complain that the financial bonus does NOT make it worth the heavy losses we will come across in another 10 years when little boys are delinquent and no dad's around to give them a life model.
Just abandon the family, go to the USA, and come home with a gift to the wife. AIDS.
Any talk in the HOUSE or SENATE needs to try to keep nuclear families, man and wife together, under one roof. Anything LESS will be destructive for YOU in the U.S., and for us...in Mexico.


5 posted on 04/03/2006 11:29:13 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: TheForceOfOne
Chech this out:


6 posted on 04/03/2006 11:31:43 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rovenstinez

mmmm guess what? I don't care about Mexico, that is Mexico's problem. And all my sympathy for the illegal immigrants who cross the border ILLEGALLY into the U.S. went out the window years ago.


7 posted on 04/03/2006 11:32:36 AM PDT by sheana
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To: blackie

Thank you blackie, excellent information to have!


8 posted on 04/03/2006 11:36:34 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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To: Dubya

The title says everything. Atleast the GOP will have some debate and then pass something that screws America.

But everyone assumes that the Rats are for illegal immigration, thats why there is no article about them.


9 posted on 04/03/2006 11:37:22 AM PDT by Marius3188
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To: rovenstinez; HiJinx; Travis McGee; janetgreen; All
I live in Mexico, and complain that the financial bonus does NOT make it worth the heavy losses we will come across in another 10 years when little boys are delinquent and no dad's around to give them a life model. Just abandon the family, go to the USA, and come home with a gift to the wife. AIDS.

Thank you for that first hand account. I wish everyone would read your words. Not only aids, but while here, the illegal aliens often leaves behind anchor babies who will never know their fathers. Many towns in Mexico are virtually ghost towns, with no one left but children and old people. What kind of man deserts his family to leave them in that corrupt place? Family values...what is a family without a father?

10 posted on 04/03/2006 11:37:53 AM PDT by WatchingInAmazement ("Nothing is more expensive than cheap labor," prof. Vernon Briggs, labor economist Cornell Un.)
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To: Dubya

I don't think it is really the business lobby.

The real cut throat business lobby would not want a legal guest worker program because that would be INFLATIONARY.


11 posted on 04/03/2006 11:42:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: TheForceOfOne

My pleasure - I'm here to serve. :)


12 posted on 04/03/2006 11:42:55 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: rovenstinez
The trouble is, people are beginning to count the cost to themselves, their children, and country and there isn't alot of sympathy left to worry over what happens to mexico.

This invasion feels more like an assault to some in the more inundated areas (I am not in such a place) and there will be a backlash.

13 posted on 04/03/2006 11:43:25 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: Marius3188
The difference between rats and conservatives, rats will complain about how many Mexicans die crossing the southern border, and Conservatives complain about how many people die at the hands of those who make it.

The number is in multiples of those who died on 9/11.
14 posted on 04/03/2006 11:46:28 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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To: Dubya

"is actually a high-stakes duel over the image and direction of the Republican Party."

No, it's "actually" a debate about important laws and this country.

It's an interesting insight though from the Democratic side since their internal battles are wholly about "image."


15 posted on 04/03/2006 11:46:47 AM PDT by Shermy (President Bush, specify what jobs Americans won't do, then we'll talk.)
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To: TheForceOfOne
That information is courtesy of the G. Gordon Liddy Show today.
16 posted on 04/03/2006 11:47:53 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (El Chupacabra spotted near U.S./Mexican border feeding on illegal immigrants. Pass it on..)
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To: Dubya
I am flying my American car flag again.

I was too, until it got sprayed with red and green paint. I guess I was in the wrong "territory", a once-safe and peaceful part of town until we got invaded.

17 posted on 04/03/2006 12:05:43 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: blackie
I live in one of the 25% to 49.9% areas of Mexifornia. It looks more like 49.9%.

Colonization, aided and abetted by the traitors who are pretending to run the U.S. government. They're even forcing us to pay for it. Taxation without representation!

18 posted on 04/03/2006 12:14:47 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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To: blackie; janetgreen

"Latino" includes AMERICAN CITIZENS, right?


19 posted on 04/03/2006 12:17:59 PM PDT by clawrence3
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To: WatchingInAmazement
Many towns in Mexico are virtually ghost towns, with no one left but children and old people.

but...but...doesn't our fearless leader tell us all about the "family values" that these illegal aliens possess?

A Mexican-American friend tells me that these "hard working men" (illegal aliens) also have wives and children here in the good ol' USA, in addition to the ones they leave in Mexico. They like it better here, there's more freebies.

20 posted on 04/03/2006 12:19:47 PM PDT by janetgreen (The White House fiddles while America is invaded)
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