Posted on 04/03/2006 11:04:05 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
About 36 percent of the public refers to themselves as conservatives. About a 44 percent call them selves moderates and about 20 percent call themselves liberals.
The problem for any president is get to 51 percent of the votes in congress. It is senseless to propose things that have zero chance of getting 51 percent approval.
The conservatives expect to elect someone and then have that person somehow enact the conservative agenda. The problem is 36 percent is not 51. A president can only do what he can get 51 percent of the people to support.
In fact under our system it is next to impossible to elect anyone who will ignore the majority and do what he thinks is right. Such a President would be impeached and forced to resign.
But a Republican president has a much harder task. The media will try to convince the voters to impeach him and force him to resign. So no Republican president can successfully reject the majority view on any subject and long survive.
Conservatives and most of their pundits are just ignorant of how our system works. They think the man we vote for and help elect will do what we want done. That will NEVER HAPPEN until a majority of voters are conservative.
Many Conservatives are really totalitarians. They want a leader that will reject majority rule and do what THEY think is best. Under our system of government that cannot happen. Any president who tries it will find strong opposition in both the opposing party and his own party.
When Roosevelt tried to take the supreme court liberal by packing the court, he was rejected by Democrats as well as Republicans. When the Viet Nam war became unpopular enough Nixon was rejected by both Democrats and Republicans.
Since then no president has rejected what a majority of voters wanted. Reagan let the congress nearly triple the national debt and double government spending. He did not lift a finger to stop it. Reagan never tried to cut government spending.. he only asked that the rate of increase in spending be reduced. The national debt and government spending grew by leaps and bounds under Reagan. It is pretty simple. A majority of voters did not want cuts and Reagan did not do anything to cut spending. Reagan as many others have done.. talked a good game but did nothing. Like all smart politicians he recognized that this a Nation whose government is of, for and by the people.
Until the Conservatives understand that the only road to success is changing voters minds, they will face a constant and total disappointment in all politicians. It is funny. The right really trashed Reagan during his term in office for the same issues they are trashing Bush.
Twenty years from now they will be praising Bush as they now do Reagan, and trashing a new Republican president for not being like Bush and Reagan.. when in fact he will be exactly like Bush and Reagan
Oh, please. They are busily ignoring what a huge majority of the country wants, and refusing to enforce the immigration laws.
Leaving aside the rest of your rant, that one statement says everything anybody needs to know about you.
Read the polls .. and read history. The nation is evenly divided on immigration. And it is the issue that will decide votes for a very few voters.
I would remind you that William Jennings Bryan believed the public did not want illegal immigration 100 years ago. Back then the law was clear .. those wanting to immigrate into the USA had to have permission from their native land and a legal birth cirtificate from their native land.
A huge number of people arrived in the USA with out either of those papers. Italians were a large number of those who arrived With Out Papers. But we let them in anyway.
That is why Italians Americans were called the derogatory name of WOP.. They entered the USA illegally.. WITH OUT PAPERS... The anacronym for With Out Papers is WOP. We let them in and called them a derogatory name.
William Jennings Bryan ran for president on that issue 3 times. He got the crap beat out of him.
The anti immigration people will be defeated as well
Politicians are not stupid... Just because anti-immigration people claim to be a majority, does not mean those in office believe them. Those opposed to immigration have claimed majority status when they didn't even come close to having it far too many times. And if those that entered 100 years ago entered legally as claimed... explain why they were called WOPs.
Some very loud people tried to keep the Irish out of the USA in the 1840s. They even put up signs.. no Irish Need Apply. But there were more voters who wanted the cheap labor and cheap goods they produced than wanted the jobs that they took. At the end of the 1840s there were more Irish in the USA than in Ireland.
Imimgration went through the roof in the late 1800s and William Jennings Bryan got totally defeated on the issuse.
Right now politicians know that unless we grealy increase the number of younger workers paying Social Security this nation will go bankrupt.... With options of a likely failure of our government or the adoption of a policy of killing old people to reduce the medicare and Social Security tax bills.
The European governments are trying to solve that problem by importing Muslims... Why do you think they allow so many Muslims in european countries? We are trying to solve the problem with Mexican workers.
The most likely solution if you succeed, is a liberal supreme court to rule that old people are too senile to vote. Then they will pass laws killing people who need to draw benefits to live.
If we do not import enough workers to pay the taxes for Social Security and medicare, our nation will be killing old people to reduce the demand for benefits.
Do you think the gal that chooses to abort( kill ) her own baby would not vote to have you killed to reduce her taxes?
Nice post at # 11.
I guess because everyone defines conservatism differently, so the next guy doesn't ever measure up, at least in terms of personal definitions. I know that's true of me and what I tend to think.
My opinion is that in many important ways (taxes, free enterprise, patriotism, etc.) W is a conservative, but in one very fundamental thing he is not: he believes that government should take a central role in ordering and arranging society.
do you assume much or do you always fill in the blanks and hope for being correct about what you think people are saying...? i thought i was being very clear on what i've said... i never implied who i would be voting for in any election, so why would you assume that i would be voting for moderate GOP candidates anywhere...? maybe i will, maybe i won't... i'm just not a member of the GOP, i'm a registered independent... how i vote is my concern, not yours and i vote for who i think and have done research that will reflect my conservative views...
Well one out of two ain't bad, as with the current President.
Whaddya mean, you liberal puke?
JUST kidding, just kidding!
"The only reason they aren't electable is because nervous conservatives tell themselves that they can't win. I'm not voting for a big government republican ever again. I'd rather have a democrat in the white house with a GOP congress that has some balls than what we have now, a President and Congress who sell themselves out to democrats and end up getting bashed by democrats afterwards."
AMEN TO THAT BUMP!
Agree, Check out The Constitution Party. Better to send a REAL message that cant be downplayed as "poor turnout" than to stay home and hand the dims the election on a silver platter.
You forgot my favorite GWB loyalist line:
"Hey, Reagan sucked, too!"
"If a man will lie to his wife, he'll lie to me even quicker. And having affairs is lying. I want a President who honors his vows, OK? If he won't honor his marriage vows, why should I believe he'll honor his oath of office any better."
I feel the same way about Rudy. And I have my doubts about Keating Five McCain's personal ethics, no matter how much he harps on pork and his MSM chorus spouts about how squeaky-clean he is.
Exactly what I have done and I am no longer a Republican. The party has left us conservatives.
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