Posted on 04/03/2006 8:13:43 AM PDT by doug from upland
ROHRBACHER DEMANDING NEW PROBE OF OKC
Jayna Davis and I had an interesting phone conversation this morning. She is still waiting for a plane ticket to D.C. and an invitation to testify about the OKC bombing. Neither has been forthcoming.
Is it good news that Rep. Dana Rohrbacher (R-CA) is demanding a new probe of the OKC bombing? Maybe. But is it going to really get to the truth about the Middle Eastern connection to OKC? Maybe not.
Last year, David Schippers, famous for prosecuting both the Chicago mob and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, flew to OKC to meet Jayna and her witnesses. Dave spent 12 hours grilling 14 of them on camera.
When he was finished, he told Jayna that, with just three of them, he would get a federal indictment of Hussain al-Hussaini in one day. FBI agent Dan Vogel told her he could do the same -- with one of her witnesses. That is how credible they were.
So why, Congressman Rohrbacher, did you tell Jayna that the committee has no budget to fly her to Washington, D.C.? What is the problem? Are we finally going to get the truth or is this grandstanding?
Andreas Carl Strassmeier has six witnesses saying that he was building a fence at the time of the bombing. He couldn't have been with McVeigh. Of 1100 fingerprints tied to the crime scene, none are Strassmeier's. Not one of 30,000 witnesses ties Strassmeier to the crime.
Here is a question for you, Congressman. Well, actually seven questions. Ten months ago, Jayna gave these to you in writing and still is waiting for the answers.
1. Why has the Justice Department/FBI not issued an official on-the-record statement exonerating Hussain Al-Hussaini of complicity in the Oklahoma City bombing? Has the DOJ provided Congress with Hussain Al-Hussaini’s whereabouts for the critical hours of the morning of April 19, 1995?
2. Why did the FBI never question Hussain Al-Hussaini about the bombing?
3. Why did the FBI previously suspect Al-Hussaini’s employer of ties to the Palestinian Liberation Organization?
4. Why were the original motel registration logs where witnesses testified McVeigh checked in with Al-Hussaini’s Iraqi cohort the evening of April 18, 1995, never returned to the establishment’s owner?
5. Whatever happened to the brown Chevrolet pickup that was seen carrying Middle Eastern suspects from the bomb site? The Oklahoma City police found fingerprints inside the recovered truck. Why were these prints not compared to the immigration files of the three Middle Eastern nationals whom witnesses observed in that getaway vehicle before, during, and after the bombing?
6. Why did the Bureau rebuff my efforts to surrender the witness statements and supporting evidence in September 1997? Why did the FBI withhold from the defense teams the twenty-two witness affidavits that I delivered to FBI Special Agent Dan Vogel in January 1999?
7. Why were the prior warnings issued by the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare that predicted an Islamic attack in the “heart of the U.S.” disregarded as an indicator of foreign participation?
Congressman Rohrbacher needs to bring Jayna and Schippers to meet with the committee in closed session. The committee needs to see the on camera interviews of 14 eye witnesses. It needs to be done in closed session to protect the witnesses. They stepped forward as patriots facing great risk.
The real story of OKC should have been told long ago. Let's finally get it told now. Bill Clinton did not want to deal with Middle East terror on our soil. He wanted this to be domestic terror. That is what he got. Who are those deep inside the FBI who are responsible for continuing the coverup?
The truth about OKC will forever end any remaining legacy of the impeached William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. Had he dealt with OKC, 9-11 could have been prevented. He ignored Middle East terror, created the vast right wing conspiracy, and his Kool-Aid drinkers dug in their heels. He would be held accountable for nothing. They stood with him no matter what because they had to fight the dreaded right wing. That is how Clinton divided America as never before.
If anyone would like to join me in calling the congressman, he is at (202) 225-2415.
You're pretty sure? You asked for dates and yet were given the same link, complete with DATES, four times. Maybe your memory is a little hazy on this matter.
Because the Washington Post clearly is quoting Lancy when he says there is a growing body of evidence...
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#1. It was not some link some yahoo posted on this thread. It was a direct post and link to YOU personally. Four times.
#2. You want me to give the date but won't open the link I've given you four times? Are you kidding me? How lazy can you be.
#3. I've provided a link which is more than you've done. Why don't you provide a link with back up to your assertion and we'll compare dates.
#4. I never said Lance was unreliable.
#5. Your posts tonight are making me doubt every word you've said about Lance.
What is the date of the WaPo article please.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1598689/posts
Saddam's Philippines Terror Connection(Yes, Saddam financially supported terrorists)
Are you incapable of looking at a Washington Post article and determining the date yourself? It clearly was written after Lance wrote his book, and hence the statement about a chapter in his book.
Why won't you open the link?
Nail, meet hammer.
It's the same reason Bush II halted the ongoing investigations of Clintoon's crimes soon after being sworn in.
It's the same reason the Republican-controlled congress refused to act when they had the chance to restrain the executive by putting limits on Executive Orders, believing (rightly) those contraints would come back and haunt the next Republican president.
It is going to take a great FReeping effort to help Jayna and Dave Schippers get Congress to investigate this and tell the truth.
Doug - I don't see this gaining traction at this time. I pinged everyone I could think of regarding this matter and most didn't respond.
If freepers don't get back to what we used to do best, activism, then we're just a chat room.
I also question why W is letting Hillary off the hook for her campaign finance fraud, the biggest in history from her 2000 senate campaign. There is no good reason why, after four false FEC reports, that she and treasurer Andrew Grossman have not been indicted be the Justice Department.
I see some traction. Even if he is not planning for a complete investigation, Rohrbacher is calling for this to be revisited.
for later
The other book I have is called, Islamic Threat Updates Almanac No. 1 5762, written April 2003.
Well, technically, they are my husband's books. I haven't read them, yet. there is so much information in them, it almost head-spinning, but he showed me the relevant parts about OKC and TWA 800. In the second book, he even talks about Jayna Davis and Lori Mylroie's investigative reports.
Victor Mordecai is a Jewish man of very deep faith and speaks very passionately of it and his relationship with Christians.
Schippers (or you, or JimRob, or ME or ANYONE) involved in this and totally behind it is able to spend money to check out the sources, but then nobody can afford $400 of their own money round trip to send Jayna to Washington to see the committee?
Sounds like to me that Schippers went, saw, and either got less interested, or was unable to persuade anyone else to be interested.
Nonsense.
PMJI here. I came across this thread late tonight and have read the discussions with interest. sam, your skeptical irascibility has been amusing, but after looking at your home page I suspect you are being somewhat disingenuous, or perhaps calculatedly oblique regarding your understanding of "the big picture". In other words, methinks thous doth protest too much.
No one of your erudition, as indicated by your home page, can be unaware that the issue of who pays Jayna Davis' air fare to testify before Rohrabacher's committee has nothing to do with the money or his budget. It's about acknowledging her credibility and legitimacy as a witness and as an expert investigator.
If the Committee pays to BRING her to Washington, this is a clear signal in Beltwayspeak to the press, etc. that the Committee regards her as credible or at least properly qualified to have her information considered. If she pays her own way, she's just another private citizen who OF COURSE has the right to petition her elected officials, who will OF COURSE give her information all the attention it deserves, in the proper time, yada, yada, yada...
It's all about jockeying for status, credibility and legitimacy. Jayna Davis understands this - that's why she insists on it. So does Rohrabacher. And, I suspect, so do you.
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I should have answered this earlier. Of course they can afford a plane ticket. The point is that they have to be invited to the committee to testify. When the committee does that, they pay the expenses to get the testimony. Rohrbacher was telling her that he had no interest in hearing from her eyewitnesses. His comment that the committee had no money for it was preposterous.
Thanks for the ping. I have spent all evening reading every bit of this thread, while going off on my own brief sleuthing tangents, and I still understand very little of it, but I'm trying.
Don't think I'm being petty, but if anyone here sends anything in writing to Rep. Rohrabacher, make sure to spell his name correctly. First rule of PR - or buttering up.
It was also a deliberate insult.
what would two basically unemployed white boys from Oklahoma be doing making so many trips there?
I try to catch this every time I see it and I seem to see it a lot on FR, darn it! Neither McVeigh nor Nichols nor Fortier was from Oklahoma or ever lived in Oklahoma. OK? Thanks!
A FReeper with the nickname "Osage Orange" ought to know better than to quote that misstatement without correcting it! What if I called you "Bois d'Arc"?
Neither McVeigh nor Nichols nor Fortier is or was from Oklahoma or ever lived there. Thanks!
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