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C5 crashes near Dover AFB
ABC News | 04/03/2006

Posted on 04/03/2006 5:10:20 AM PDT by Trust but Verify

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TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: c5; doverafb; planecrash; usaf
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To: Gabz
I live near False Egg Point near Fortescue on NJ side of Delaware Bay where the C5's make there 180deg turns waiting to land in Dover. I do alot of waterfowl hunting in this area also. Around Feb thru mid March theres around 50,000 to 70,000 snowgeese in the area staging getting ready for their sprimg migration to the top of the Northwest Terr. I don't know how many times those low flying C5's come close to running into 50,000 spooked snowgeese taking off. I'm surprised no C5's have crashed yet hitting all those snowgeese. When all those snowgeese takeoff from being spooked all those geese sound like a C5 taking off from Dover.

Sorry for any typos, just got done working nightshift......
141 posted on 04/03/2006 6:17:05 AM PDT by Mr Fowl
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To: Mr Fowl

Birds are a major danger to those planes.

The area where it went down is a prime area for the snow and Canada geese.


142 posted on 04/03/2006 6:21:01 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: Gabz

Gabz:
Talking about snowgeese I wonder if that C5 hit a migrating flock of snowgeese????


143 posted on 04/03/2006 6:21:47 AM PDT by Mr Fowl
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To: SE Mom

I grew up in Dover (was actually born on the Base) and now live about 15 miles South of the base, right in one of the landing paths. We see these fly over every day. It is amazing that the accident wasn't much worse than it appears. I think the crew deserves a huge amount of credit from what I've heard of the incident. They recognized the problem, took the proper steps, put her down in a field rather than in a populated area, and most of the crew was able to walk away. Simply outstanding on their part.

Prayers for the ones more seriously injured...


144 posted on 04/03/2006 6:22:36 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: r9etb; admin

Unless they've moved it recently, that's just off the southeast end of the main runway.

Mods, if posting Mapquest maps is a no-no, please remove, I just grabbed one in a hurry.

145 posted on 04/03/2006 6:22:58 AM PDT by Heatseeker (Never underestimate the left's tendency to underestimate us.)
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To: Mr Fowl

I haven't heard anything in the reports I've caught.......but given the time of year, it wouldn't surprise me.


146 posted on 04/03/2006 6:23:17 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: commish

I only had 1 breakdown and it was on a C-5 and in Dover. It was the most boring 36 hour stop. But I was happy to do it. We had just begun startup and one of the engines caught fire.

The C-5 is flying in style compared to our 10-20 hour missions on the EC-130 and RC-135.


147 posted on 04/03/2006 6:25:02 AM PDT by xusafflyer (Mexifornian by birth, Hoosier by choice.)
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To: Heatseeker

Yup - that BIG "x" is exactly where it is.


148 posted on 04/03/2006 6:25:33 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: commish
I think my sister and brother-in-law were stationed there at that time. They lived in Landstuhl though.
149 posted on 04/03/2006 6:26:48 AM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: Mr Fowl
Talking about snowgeese I wonder if that C5 hit a migrating flock of snowgeese????

If the story is right about 2 engines out, bird ingestion is a good first guess.

150 posted on 04/03/2006 6:30:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Gabz

Digging up some pictures to give folks a idea how many snowgeese are in the area around Dover before migrating!


151 posted on 04/03/2006 6:31:44 AM PDT by Mr Fowl
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To: r9etb

We always got reports about black birds in the area when we flew into or out of Dover.


152 posted on 04/03/2006 6:32:22 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Coop
Crash occurred at ~6:45 EDT. I doubt an AF PAO would have anybody in the office at that hour. It would be highly unusual that a statement would be issued while the plane was returning.

Problem with #2 shortly after takeoff, emergency declared, attempted to return to Dover, crashed on approach.

153 posted on 04/03/2006 6:33:24 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: r9etb; All

The circle indicates the location of the tail section from the crash site.

Link to News Source for Crash Photos

154 posted on 04/03/2006 6:34:37 AM PDT by all4one
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To: leadpenny

There have been a few others though I don't know how many off the top of my head.


155 posted on 04/03/2006 6:34:55 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Gabz

Gabz,

Don't know if you moved away before the talks about a trash facility near the base or not, but the military's main argument against locating a proposed facility near the base was exactly because of the birds it would attract. Fortunately, the military won this one.

The site looks like it's very near the John Dickinson Plantation. I was just there last Wednesday with my duaghter's class on a field trip. Boy would that have been traumatic...


156 posted on 04/03/2006 6:36:42 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: sargunner
In those pictures we can see the escape slide deployed on from the port door of the passenger compartment.
157 posted on 04/03/2006 6:40:21 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TomServo

To bring something that big down in a cornfield, that intact, with no fire, and supposedly on three (or fewer) engines? That, folks, is an absolutely masterful job of flying, probably compounded by some significant divine intervention.

}:-)4


158 posted on 04/03/2006 6:41:57 AM PDT by Moose4 ("I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword/In defense of this land and the word of the Lord")
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To: Hurricane Andrew

I was still there during the fights of the trash facility. I agree with you, fortunately the military won that fight.

It's very close to the Dickinson Plantation.


159 posted on 04/03/2006 6:42:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: Moose4

I thought the thing looked in pretty good shape. They did a great job. I had the pleasure of loading/unloading one in support of an excercise once in the '80's. Was a lot of fun....


160 posted on 04/03/2006 6:43:49 AM PDT by TomServo
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