Are drinkers raising their glasses to the smoking ban? (Scotland)

The Scotsman ^ | Sunday, 2nd April 2006 | ANNA MILLAR, RICHARD GRAY AND ARTHUR MACMILLAN

[qam1]

FREEEEEEEDOMMM!!!!!!

That was then, unfortunately this is Scotland now

[elkfersupper]

Unintended consequences are a beeyatch.

Just wait 'til the first massacre at a smokeasy.

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

What? The government can dispatch reporters....

I believe "Scotland on Sunday" is a newspaper but I could be wrong.

[elkfersupper]

Meanwhile, it was reported that a woman was removed from a jury at Glasgow High Court after she was allegedly overheard saying she would take a harsher view of the accused, if there was nowhere in the court for her to smoke.

Note to self: Use this to escape future jury duty, although my anger would be targeted toward judge and prosecutors.

[Hardastarboard]

Alright, everyone. Repeat after me. Right arm up at a 45 degree angle, palm flat. In English "Hail, Victory". "Hail, Victory". "Hail, Victory".

[Pan_Yans Wife]

They've groped your children?

[TaxRelief]

Fortunately they are usually only groping each other.

[mysterio]

If they ban it in my area, I will only go to bars to play shows there. If and when I quit smoking, I will go to bars, since apparently bars in those areas only want nonsmokers as clients. These bans stand because smokers keep going to the bars. I will not be purchasing drinks at any nonsmoking bar as a smoker. If more smokers would follow this policy, the bans would be short lived indeed.

[383rr]

This is the beginning of the end for all personal freedom in Scotland, it appears. The line between private and public property has been erased. Coming soon to America.....

[The Foolkiller]

These bans stand because smokers keep going to the bars.

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Yep. And restaurants. And amusement parks. And (fill in the blank.) They just keep bending over and taking another inch between the buttocks and say thank you very much, I know I should quit anyway, and I'm afraid of being arrested or fined. 30% of the country's citizenry is a powerful force indeed. Or rather, COULD be-if the majority of smokers had any balls. We outnumber gun owners by how much, do you think? They back off on them because they stick together, and get laws passed, or get rhinos and cRATS voted out. Think about this...IF smokers had any balls or organization;;;;and IF we all contributed say-FIVE BUCKS a month-we could literally buy ANY election in the U.S. including perhaps the presidency. And that's if only half of that 30% were to contribute.

[mysterio]

I for one am tired of edicts from the ruling class telling us what fresh, steaming pile of statism that we desperately need. Notice that each edict gives our cancerous government even more money and power. And as usaul, tyranny is greeted with thunderous applause.

Where I live, they picked the incremental route to an all out ban. We now have complex rules that certain resteraunts may allow smoking while others may not. In two year's time, we will probably be throwing out the "confusing" policy in favor of an all out ban in resteraunts, with bars to follow soon after.

[Don W]

thx for the ping.

I too am stunned at the docile reception the Scots have had to this intrusion upon their private property, let alone the court's reaction to a juror/smoker merely stating her desire to have a puff, and the potential repercussions of PROHIBITION!

[ran15]

The left: "For your own good we'll rule over you."

The right:

!!!!FREEEEDOMMMM!!!!!

[A. Pole]

Are drinkers raising their glasses to the smoking ban?

Some day they will prohibit drinking alcohol in bars.

Freedom on the march!

[the scotsman]

There is NO BAN on smoking in your own home.

It was merely a stupid comment/suggestion by a congenital idiot we sadly have as a minister...

It didnt make the headlines here and nobody has taken any notice of it as a result,dont worry...

[SittinYonder]

According to this article, there is a ban on smoking in people's homes.

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2449002005

If I've misunderstood and this ban isn't in effect, please let me know. Perhaps I've read it wrong.

[mysterio]

Smokers who continue to give money to the bars are more responsible than the nannies who demanded the legislation.

[the scotsman]

Thats England.

Here,it has been 'suggested' but the NHS has no Scots legal right to enforce such a 'right' in a private home.

In fact the English one is illegal too I believe...

[SittinYonder]

Thats England

LOL ... I get so accustomed to skipping over place names in articles in the Scotsman (since they mean nothing to me) that I never looked to see where it actually was, just assuming it was Scotland because of the source.

Thanks for setting me straight, although my general point (which is that nationalized healthcare leads to a loss of liberty) remains the same.