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Are drinkers raising their glasses to the smoking ban? (Scotland)
The Scotsman ^ | Sunday, 2nd April 2006 | ANNA MILLAR, RICHARD GRAY AND ARTHUR MACMILLAN

Posted on 04/02/2006 12:28:18 PM PDT by SittinYonder

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John McColm, 34, said: "Within two months it will be considered the norm. No one will be complaining."

The good news is, governments everywhere can overextend their authority, force private property owners to bend to the government's will - all in the name of "IT'S GOOD FOR YOU" - and the people will accept it.

1 posted on 04/02/2006 12:28:20 PM PDT by SittinYonder
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To: eyespysomething; SheLion; qam1; elkfersupper; starfish923; A. Pole; FairOpinion

This is a follow-up to a story I posted a few days ago.

Scotland has adopted a national smoking ban in "public places" which, as one of my Republican state legislators pointed out to me now means "publicly accessible places." I remember the good ol' days when public places used to mean government-owned property.

Governments everywhere now view all property as their own.

Remember, in Scotland, if you have a government worker coming to your private home you cannot smoke for an hour before they arrive.


2 posted on 04/02/2006 12:31:29 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: Publius6961; Visalia; D.P.Roberts; Vicomte13; Don W; Gabz; Mears; 383rr

Follow up to a thread you were all on a week or so ago.


3 posted on 04/02/2006 12:38:00 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder
Are drinkers raising their glasses to the smoking ban?

No.

4 posted on 04/02/2006 12:40:34 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~¦ IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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Phrases such as this are reason enough that smoking bans should not be imposed:"My fag's drenched," moaned one man

That sort of language is uncalled for, and if your children hear it you can blame the government ;-)

5 posted on 04/02/2006 12:49:32 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder

Or: "I'm going outside for a puff." LOL


6 posted on 04/02/2006 12:51:59 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~¦ IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: SittinYonder

"So Scotland on Sunday decided to test adherence to the new law by dispatching reporters to more than 100 bars in every corner of the nation. And the result? A few, minor transgressions amid remarkably high levels of compliance."

What? The government can dispatch reporters....


7 posted on 04/02/2006 12:52:06 PM PDT by gondramB (Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's.)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

LOL ... precisely


8 posted on 04/02/2006 12:56:11 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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What? The government can dispatch reporters....

That struck me as odd, too. I assume when they say Scotland dispatched reporters they mean there were lots of reporters from differnet news agencies at the bars. I don't think the government told them to send reporters, but I don't know.

9 posted on 04/02/2006 12:58:02 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: SittinYonder

A cigarette is placed in one's mouth... so why did such slang emerge? I'm glad I stick to cigars....


10 posted on 04/02/2006 1:00:53 PM PDT by Irish_Thatcherite (~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~¦ IRA supporters on FR are trolls, end of story!)
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To: SittinYonder; The Foolkiller; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; Cantiloper; metesky; Judith Anne; ..

Here's more:

 

Glasgow,Scotland,UK

Smoking ban hotline gets 28 callers

29 March, 2006

A HOTLINE for the public to report smokers who light up in enclosed public places has received almost 30 complaints.
There were 87 calls to the Scottish Executive's national smoking ban hotline up until midnight on Monday.
And it was revealed today 28 of these calls were complaints of individuals allegedly ignoring the ban.

As the Evening Times reported last night, Scotland's first two smoking ban offenders have been identified as a pub and a bookies.

The premises - both in Renfrewshire - will be given warning letters for flouting the law on smoking which started on Sunday.

However, the introduction of the legislation has proved much smoother than expected in Scotland.
But yesterday's public sector strike meant council enforcement officers were not out patrolling pubs.

Meanwhile, it was reported that a woman was removed from a jury at Glasgow High Court after she was allegedly overheard saying she would take a harsher view of the accused, if there was nowhere in the court for her to smoke.
The court's smoke room has been closed. The woman could now be charged with contempt of court.

Publication date 29/03/06 A HOTLINE for the public to report smokers who light up in enclosed public places has received almost 30 complaints.

There were 87 calls to the Scottish Executive's national smoking ban hotline up until midnight on Monday.
And it was revealed today 28 of these calls were complaints of individuals allegedly ignoring the ban.

As the Evening Times reported last night, Scotland's first two smoking ban offenders have been identified as a pub and a bookies.

The premises - both in Renfrewshire - will be given warning letters for flouting the law on smoking which started on Sunday.

However, the introduction of the legislation has proved much smoother than expected in Scotland.

But yesterday's public sector strike meant council enforcement officers were not out patrolling pubs.

Meanwhile, it was reported that a woman was removed from a jury at Glasgow High Court after she was allegedly overheard saying she would take a harsher view of the accused, if there was nowhere in the court for her to smoke.
The court's smoke room has been closed. The woman could could now be contempt of court.

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11 posted on 04/02/2006 1:04:40 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: SittinYonder

These laws force lewd drunks out onto public sidewalks for children to see and hear. Some areas in New York state have a real problem with this. You have to steer your children around smelly, cursing, groping drunks just to walk down the sidewalk.


12 posted on 04/02/2006 1:04:48 PM PDT by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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Meanwhile, it was reported that a woman was removed from a jury at Glasgow High Court after she was allegedly overheard saying she would take a harsher view of the accused, if there was nowhere in the court for her to smoke. The court's smoke room has been closed. The woman could now be charged with contempt of court.

Contempt of court for telling the truth? Figures.

13 posted on 04/02/2006 1:20:23 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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What remarkably sheep-like acceptance.

I hadn't realized the Scots had become so devoid of spirit.

14 posted on 04/02/2006 1:40:01 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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I hadn't realized the Scots had become so devoid of spirit.

FREEEEEEEDOMMM!!!!!!

FMCDH(BITS)

15 posted on 04/02/2006 1:59:21 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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That ban on smoking the hour before a government worker comes is the funniest thing I have ever heard.


How on earth can you enforce something like this? It's a classic "He said,she said" situation.

I love Scotland but will never visit it again. I'm too old to be standing around outside smoking cigarettes.


16 posted on 04/02/2006 3:12:11 PM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen-caviar and cigarettes.)
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To: Madame Dufarge
What remarkably sheep-like acceptance.

My fellow statesman have accepted our smoking ban like a bunch of sheep, too. Personal liberty and private property are dissolving throughout the western world.

17 posted on 04/02/2006 3:22:12 PM PDT by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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I hadn't realized the Scots had become so devoid of spirit.

I agree.  Sad, isn't it!

18 posted on 04/02/2006 3:56:55 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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At the Saracen Bar in the city's Possil area, the ban was already taking its toll. A man in a wheelchair complained he wanted a cigarette, but it was difficult for him to smoke outside and get shelter. Eventually a kind member of staff wheeled him out and held an umbrella over his head while he enjoyed his cigarette.




F&*$%^g Bastards.


19 posted on 04/02/2006 5:30:48 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The year the NFL became irrelevant..)
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To: Madame Dufarge

What remarkably sheep-like acceptance.
I hadn't realized the Scots had become so devoid of spirit.




You should know by now that's the only type of person the 'reporters' ever seem to be able to find.


20 posted on 04/02/2006 5:34:28 PM PDT by The Foolkiller (BSXL* The year the NFL became irrelevant..)
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