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10,000+ ON THE MARCH (illegals say walls won't keep them out)
NY POST ^ | April 2, 2006 | DOUGLAS MONTERO and LORENA MONGELLI

Posted on 04/02/2006 5:43:00 AM PDT by Liz

A roiling sea of immigrants - many of them in the country illegally - and their supporters poured across the Brooklyn Bridge and into Manhattan yesterday to protest what they call "oppressive" reform measures currently under consideration in Congress.

Marchers, waving flags from Mexico, Colombia, Honduras and El Salvador, chanted and carried signs recalling America's roots during the demonstration, organized by state Sen. Ruben Diaz, a Bronx Democrat and native of Puerto Rico.

"That flag on top of the Brooklyn Bridge is symbolic because all these other flags, all these other nations, are covered by the USA," declared Ismael Claudio, 35, also a native Puerto Rican and therefore a U.S. citizen.

In the House, legislation already has passed that would set penalties for anyone who knowingly assists or encourages an illegal immigrant to remain in the country.

The Senate may adopt a broader bill that would be less punitive, create a guest-worker program and open a path to citizenship for the estimated 11M immigrants now in the country without proper papers.

As they trekked over the bridge, demonstrators carried signs proclaiming, "Did the pilgrims need green cards?"

Patricia Urgules, 35, of Ecuador, said......"I came here in search of the American Dream - the dream to be free, to be treated equally," she said. "We only ask for those basic principles this country was founded on."

Construction worker Eduardo Segundo, 40, of Harlem, scoffs at the notion, mentioned by Mayor Bloomberg last week, of a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

He recalled sneaking across the border 12 years ago - and said 20 of his and his wife's relatives now live in the United States. ".....The wall that they build will not work. People will just figure out a way to cross."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Political Humor/Cartoons
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To: Mojave
One at a time.

There aren't enough agents to make even a dent in the caseload. One at a time won't even slow the flow of illegal aliens at present staffing--the problem has grown far beyond that capability.

181 posted on 04/02/2006 1:53:54 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: RightWhale
They can handle perhaps 50,000 cases a year.

That's less than 3 deportations per state per day. Bovine scat.

182 posted on 04/02/2006 1:54:03 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: sirchtruth
Ya know the more I see this kind of thing the more it scared I become...this is not just some illegals wanting to come here to move into better circustances it's an all out uprising...

The point is they are Illegals, Americans are not against Immigration as long as you do it legally.
183 posted on 04/02/2006 1:54:47 PM PDT by exdem2000
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To: Mojave
That's less than 3 deportations per state per day. Bovine scat.

That's also what they can do, and are doing now. It was adequate when illegal aliens were arriving at 20,000 a year. It's gotten way beyond that and is not possible without a massive program.

184 posted on 04/02/2006 1:56:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: RightWhale
That's the cost of employing the new agents.

No, that's begging the question. You haven't demonstrated that a single new employee would be required.

185 posted on 04/02/2006 1:56:58 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: RightWhale
[That's less than 3 deportations per state per day. Bovine scat.]

That's also what they can do

That's all? Says who?

186 posted on 04/02/2006 1:58:09 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave
that's begging the question

That is establishing a basis for further analysis. Deporting all of them is an option, the one that TK addressed on the floor of the Senate last week. Too bad he showed he has at least one remaining functional neuron. The cost of deportation of the 11 million is $240 billion. There is no other estimate.

187 posted on 04/02/2006 2:01:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: Mojave
That's all? Says who?

They don't just sit around drinking coffee and eating donuts. If you want to beef up the program to handle a thousand times the caseload, you must hire a thousand times the employees, not that you will find that many who are willing to work for FedGov. Pay them or you will find no one to hire.

188 posted on 04/02/2006 2:04:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: SheLion

"So why don't the illegal aliens, who say they want to become citizens, learn the damn language? "

1. They are ignorant.
2. "Liberals" insist on accomodating their native language.


189 posted on 04/02/2006 2:04:56 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: RightWhale
That is establishing a basis for further analysis.

Let's form a committee with Kennedy as the chairman and do a study, based on politically correct self-serving surmise.

190 posted on 04/02/2006 2:05:10 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Liz

Burglers protesting B&E laws........


191 posted on 04/02/2006 2:07:11 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: Mojave

The result of TK's estimate of the cost is the bill now being considered, allowing the illegal aliens to integrate. Nobody wants to spend another $240 billion and will take any reasonable alternative. Deportation is not an option.


192 posted on 04/02/2006 2:08:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: RightWhale
They don't just sit around drinking coffee and eating donuts.

Whoever "they" are, they aren't spending their day deporting illegal aliens.

193 posted on 04/02/2006 2:12:31 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: RightWhale
The result of TK's estimate

TK? You mean Ted Kennedy? His figure was an invention, not an estimate.

194 posted on 04/02/2006 2:14:14 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Yeah, they are. They are tough and they are cold. Thing is, there aren't many of them.


195 posted on 04/02/2006 2:15:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: Mojave

His number was low and for the first year only. Even that was enough to convince Congress that a different solution is necessary.


196 posted on 04/02/2006 2:17:24 PM PDT by RightWhale (Nothing can evolve which has not been involved)
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To: devolve

LOL, Woodstock has become a bouncing ball!!


197 posted on 04/02/2006 2:38:51 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: RightWhale
His number was low

Kennedy's number was crap. Zero net.

198 posted on 04/02/2006 2:45:32 PM PDT by Mojave
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To: Mojave

Well, we are trying to get their oil. That might pay for some of the expense. It should be their expense, though. ----- Mexican Gov't Wants Links with US Firms for Oil Exploration http://www.rigzone.com/news/article.asp?a_id=30411


199 posted on 04/02/2006 3:00:56 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: RightWhale
We ought to be using numbers rather than vague hand waving and other fallacious argumentum ad populi.

IMHO: They figured how to get here if they want to leave they can figure a way to get out.

200 posted on 04/02/2006 3:04:40 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (In the Land of the Blind the one-eyed man is king.)
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