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Battle Brews As Porn Moves Into Mainstream
Breitbrat ^ | 04/01/2006 | David Crary

Posted on 04/01/2006 5:37:42 PM PST by Panerai

The industry's VIPs mingle at political galas and Super Bowl parties. Their product is available on cell phones, podcasts, and particularly the Internet _ there it's an attraction like no other, patronized by tens of millions of Americans.

It's pornography. And if you're a consumer, John Harmer thinks you're damaging your brain.

Harmer is part of a cadre of anti-porn activists seeking new tactics to fight an unprecedented deluge of porn which they see as wrecking countless marriages and warping human sexuality. They are urging federal prosecutors to pursue more obscenity cases and raising funds for high-tech brain research that they hope will fuel lawsuits against porn magnates.

"We don't think it's a lost cause," said Harmer, a Utah-based auto executive and former politician who's been fighting porn for 40 years.

"It's the most profitable industry in the world," he said. "But I'm convinced we'll demonstrate in the not-too-distant future the actual physical harm that pornography causes and hold them financially accountable. That could be the straw that breaks their back."

The activists' adversary is a sprawling industry that, by some counts, offers more than 4 million porn sites on the Internet, that in the United States alone is estimated to be worth $12 billion a year. A tracking firm, comScore Media Metrix, says about 40 percent of Internet users in the United States visit adult sites each month.

Porn products are featured at popular sex expositions and retail chains such as Hustler Hollywood. Major hotels provide in-room porn, and adult film stars are now mainstream celebrities. Mary Carey attended a VIP Republican fundraiser in Washington in mid-March; Jenna Jameson's "How to Make Love Like a Porn Star" hit the best-seller lists and she hosted a racy pre-Super Bowl party in Detroit in February.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: ambulancechasers; boguslawsuits; intotheabyss; junkscience; lawsuitabuse; lawsuitlottery; libertarians; media; moralabsolutes; porn; psuedoscience; shysters; warongenesis
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To: Panerai

"Why don't you check - there is an age restriction on GTA."

The stores sell it to them anyway.


201 posted on 04/02/2006 2:50:15 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: fabian

"There's a really good free silent prayer on fhu.com that has helped free alot of people. It might help him. It's non-denominational in case he is turned off from religion."

Thanks. I'm not sure how he feels about religion, but it never hurts to pray.



202 posted on 04/02/2006 2:52:46 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Panerai

Lawsuits? So his cause is not moral but financial.


203 posted on 04/02/2006 2:55:00 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: little jeremiah

"As I said, I have no interest in anyone's sex life. I was making the point that the pro-porn crowd is saying that porn is harmless, benign, legal, even beneficial, and no one should have any shame about it."

I'm sure these same people would be proud of their daughters if they chose a career in the porn business as well.


204 posted on 04/02/2006 2:56:59 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: NJ_gent

John Harmer is hard on pornography! Rock hard!


205 posted on 04/02/2006 2:59:28 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Scotswife

Surely one of the sillier arguments that exist. I don't want my daughter to grow up to operate a manure spreader either, but that doesn't mean I think manure spreading should be illegal. Luckily for you.


206 posted on 04/02/2006 3:04:53 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: little jeremiah
Anyone who disagrees with me is a fool.

Why would anyone want to argue the point with an admitted rock?

207 posted on 04/02/2006 3:21:41 PM PDT by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: little jeremiah
Since the pro-porn crowd state how harmless the porn industry is, why aren't people saying whether they "use" it or not?

I saw an x-rated movie at the drive-in 20-something years ago. That's the extent of my porn consumption, other than the occasional photo or ad that shows up in my spam folder. I happen to think porn is revolting, so I guess I'd call myself anti-porn, not pro-porn. However, that doesn't mean I want the stuff outlawed. You, like most authoritarians, confuse pro-freedom with pro-[whatever-it-is-you-want-banned].

208 posted on 04/02/2006 3:43:07 PM PDT by Sandy
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To: Scotswife

It's alot more spiritual than religious. They call it "be still and know" so it's not really like the typical saying words prayer. I just called it silent prayer.


209 posted on 04/02/2006 3:44:57 PM PDT by fabian
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To: little jeremiah
The pronogpahy industry consumes people, the people that enter into it and or associated with it and it spits back out the empty shells of a person after the evil thing is done with them.

W.
210 posted on 04/02/2006 6:20:03 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Melas

I'm sick of porn promoters and their non-arguments which consist of sloganeering, name calling, and other effluvia; and none of them ever, ever address any of the arguments that the other side presents.

Ever.


211 posted on 04/02/2006 6:38:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: Sandy

All I want is for pornography to enjoy the same status it enjoyed for most of the history of our country.

Up until Larry Flynt teamed up with the ACLU to shove it down our throats, willy nilly.

Thanks, ACLU and porn kings!


212 posted on 04/02/2006 6:40:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: RunningWolf

For some reason people on the pro-porn side don't want to see this.


213 posted on 04/02/2006 6:40:49 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: Senator Bedfellow; Scotswife

At least spreading manure is a useful task, as it helps grow food. You can take a shower and wash it off. The filth that accumulates on the heart from being in the porn industry doesn't clean off so easily.


214 posted on 04/02/2006 6:42:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Tolerating evil IS evil.)
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To: little jeremiah

I think the fact that you don't like it is clear to everyone by now.


215 posted on 04/02/2006 6:45:59 PM PDT by Senator Bedfellow
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To: little jeremiah
And you have no idea whether I "consume" porn or not. Just that I believe that there are people in our society who would become what Orwell called "thought police." They've already broken in, with "hate crime" laws. I'm a very strong believer in the danger of the "nose under the tent" laws. For instance, when the RICO statutes were passed, who could have guessed that they would be used against pro-life groups, in what should have been perfectly legal political protests. Are you sure that you want to give carte blanch rulings to government as to what's obscene, and what's not? I know a woman who believes that Playboy is evil, and every bit as horrible as snuff films. Well, let me rephrase that: I once went out on one date with her. She believed that Hugh Hefner should be in prison for the rest of his life, for all the damage he's caused to America. Is her's the view that should decide what's obscene? More importantly, what about when the left regains power. Suppose that the manage to deem the discussions on Free Republic as "hate speech," which needs to be repressed?

You had better watch out for what you wish for, because you might just get it, and then have those powers used against you!

If you don't believe it, please name a single government power that hasn't been misused by one ruling party or the other...

Mark

216 posted on 04/02/2006 7:22:31 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: little jeremiah
And since one fool compared pornography to guns, I stated my position on personal firearms, and my gun ownership.

I guess you have a thick skull.

Well, as that "fool," it seems to me that your skull must be even thicker. Where did I compare pornography to guns? I didn't. What I compared is the anti-porn propaganda you posted to the anti-gun propaganda of groups like Sara Brady's. Try reading the posts. In post 133, I said, and I quote, "Boy, change the word "porn" to "handgun," and you've got a Sara Brady advertisement for the banning of handguns... How many children and families could be saved by banning handguns, huh?

In 163, you managed to completely either ignore, or misread what I posted, with Your substition of words isn't applicable. Guns and porn have nothing in common whatsoever other than the fact that they are two classes of objects in the world."

I never compared porn to guns: What I did was state quite plainly that propagandists who hate porn use the same tactics, and even the same wording to whip up emotions, as those who hate guns.

Mark

217 posted on 04/02/2006 7:33:38 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Senator Bedfellow

"Surely one of the sillier arguments that exist. I don't want my daughter to grow up to operate a manure spreader either, but that doesn't mean I think manure spreading should be illegal. Luckily for you."


And it's silly of you to complain about an argument that I was not making.
I was referring to Jeremiah's observation about those who are claiming that porn is harmless entertainment and can even be a good thing.
Jeremiah pointed out that not too many folks are PROUD to admit they are porn hounds. I assume that is because most people instinctively know it is not a good thing.

So...my point was that if people really think it can be a good thing - they wouldn't mind at all if their daughters starred in a movie now would they?

I would think folks would much prefer their daughters to spread manure than to star in a porn movie.


218 posted on 04/02/2006 7:38:38 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: little jeremiah

"At least spreading manure is a useful task, as it helps grow food. You can take a shower and wash it off. The filth that accumulates on the heart from being in the porn industry doesn't clean off so easily."

We live in farming country. A neighbor of ours has 3 beautiful daughters who spread manure. He doesn't seem ashamed at all.
He would have a heart attack if they starred in a porn movie.


219 posted on 04/02/2006 7:43:32 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: little jeremiah
Now, since you fine fellows think that the Constitution also supports the right of porn freaks to "consume" porn, why are you afraid to say wether you use it or not? I'm not afraid to say that not only do I not "use" porn, I've never seen any. See how bold I am?

Okay. I'll say it. I have porn in the house. My wife and both use it and share some of it. When we met we both had porn collections. Some of our sex life is inspired by it. Sometimes it's just matter of being together that inspires sex.

I also write porn. So far it's only been for myself and my wife. But one piece that started of as a short story, surprised the heck out of me, by having character development. So it's now a completed first draft of what's either an erotic novel or a mainstream novel with explicit sex scenes. I'm planing on starting the rewrite process on it tomorrow.

220 posted on 04/02/2006 7:50:18 PM PDT by Celtjew Libertarian
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