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Carroll Rejects Statements Made in Iraq
AP via Yahoo ^ | 4/2/06 | MATT MOORE

Posted on 04/01/2006 1:34:16 PM PST by ricks_place

Former hostage Jill Carroll strongly disavowed statements she had made during captivity in Iraq and shortly after her release, saying Saturday she had been repeatedly threatened.

In a video, recorded before she was freed and posted by her captors on an Islamist Web site, Carroll spoke out against the U.S. military presence. But Carroll said the recording was made under threat. Her editor has said three men were pointing guns at her at the time.

"During my last night in captivity, my captors forced me to participate in a propaganda video. They told me I would be released if I cooperated. I was living in a threatening environment, under their control, and wanted to go home alive. So I agreed," she said in a statement read by her editor in Boston.

"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not."

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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

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This is my opinion if she has been so sympatric to the middle east why has she not gone into Iraq when S.H. was in charge? Why has she not gone into Iran and reported what is truly happing there?
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For one thing we allow a lot more freedom of the press than what was ever allowed under Saddam or is allowed in Iran. She'd have legtimate reason to fear for her life if she ever did any real reporting then. I don't agree with her political bias and think she seems a little bit naive but this thread has in my opinion reflected very poorly on a lot of Freepers. Every single one of them would have read any statement asked of them if it meant they'd be able to escape with their life and see their loved ones again. Every single one. So I won't crucify this woman for being politically naive. I'd imagine she has a very different opinion of the "religion of peace" after seeing it in all its glory first hand.


141 posted on 04/02/2006 7:58:09 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: adam_az
I've heard it said that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged by reality.

My dad (quoting someone, I'm sure) said that a liberal is a conservative who hasn't been mugged yet and a conservative is a liberal who hasn't been arrested yet.

142 posted on 04/02/2006 8:01:46 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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To: SmoothTalker

Do you think so?

Do you not think that a person who believes in this religion of peace would change theirs minds?

Would one not make excuses such as these were radicals this is not truly the heart of the Islam?

I would be curious of how one could write off the attitude of the Afghan leadership with the guy who converted to Christianity saying we won’t behead him we’ll instruct the people to tear him apart after we release him cause we are a people of peace.


143 posted on 04/02/2006 8:07:58 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: voreddy

You should be on here more often.


144 posted on 04/02/2006 8:22:48 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: Triggerhippie

And you should read your own posts...


145 posted on 04/02/2006 8:33:39 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.)
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To: ricks_place

Whether Jill baby knows it or not her Treasonous Statements Againest the US goverment on television even under duress would compare her to Jane Fonda and her famous speech from Hanoi North Vietnam in the early 1970s.


I HOPE SHE KNOWS SHE WAS A USEFUL IDIOT AND IT WOULD HAVE SERVED HER RIGHT IF SHE HAD HER HEAD DECAPITATED.


I hope she is not stupid enough to go back to Iraq because that type of environment is not for stupid and clueless elitist female snobs who do not have a clue about how the other half lives.


146 posted on 04/02/2006 9:01:03 PM PDT by mannie
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To: mannie
...(Jill Carroll) compare her to Jane Fonda and her famous speech from Hanoi

Hanoi Jane voluntarily went to Vietnam, aided the enemy, supported the enemy, freely acted on film for the enemy, and only many years later had any regret.

Jill Carroll voluntarily went to Iraq but was taken hostage, had her friend murdered, was coerced to make statements and immediately upon freedom rejected those statements. The comparison is weak if even comparable.

147 posted on 04/03/2006 4:39:16 AM PDT by ricks_place
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To: vikk


Her ORIGINAL statement says clearly that she was NOT tortured, NOT threatened, NOT harmed, was treated very well, and NO she did not refute the part about being threatened, she said she was in a threatening environment, she does NOT say she was threatened, there's a big difference. Unlike you, I do not have a comprehension problem. You're reading what you want to read and NOT reading the FACTS. The night before she was released she was basically told if she betrayed her country and made a propaganda tape she would get her freedom, she was NOT told if she betrayed her country she would be not be killed, there's a big difference between going home and getting killed and unfortunately you can't comprehend the difference.

You have your opinion, I have mine, let it rest.


148 posted on 04/03/2006 4:47:40 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (I'm not afraid to say out loud what the rest of you are afraid to admit.)
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To: SmoothTalker

I've lived long enough to learn that things are not what they first appear to be.

The media is presenting her some like heroine for surviving kidnapping and being a hostage.

I am not buying the cover story. If she was useless, she would have been killed long ago by her kidnappers. She has proved useful.


149 posted on 04/03/2006 7:01:04 AM PDT by exit82 (If Democrats can lead, then I'm Chuck Norris.)
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To: rockabyebaby

"Things that I was forced to say while captive are now being taken by some as an accurate reflection of my personal views. They are not. The people who kidnapped me and murdered Alan Enwiya are criminals, at best."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,190225,00.html

I can totally comprehend the difference between going home and getting killed. I think you would have done the same as her in the situation. I think most would, whether they admit it or not.


150 posted on 04/03/2006 9:42:21 AM PDT by vikk
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To: driftdiver

She's a journalist, so I don't believe anything she says. Why did the terrorists release her, when they torture, mutilate and murder most of their victims? The terrorists released her because she represents the media, and the media will therefore cover the story extensively. The terrorists correctly assume that the morons in the media will paint them as rational, considerate, misunderstood people with a legitimate cause, so more liberal lunatics in the U.S. will say we should not be fighting the war on terror.


151 posted on 04/03/2006 11:48:20 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: sonsofliberty2000

"There are too many on this forum that give no room for people to change, and learn. They already indicted her on her first statement while still a captive."

I was one of those and I now retract that. The 'wait and see' crowd was right on this, I was wrong.

She now says ...
"I will not engage in polemics. But let me be clear: I abhor all who kidnap and murder civilians, and my captors are clearly guilty of both crimes," she said.

I dont know how much was real, how much was intimidation, how much was Patty hearst syndrome. at this point I dont really care; she is safe.
She retracted it, and says it was done out of fear. Good enough. her words are not to be considered and we should drop it.


152 posted on 04/03/2006 6:59:32 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

The media is indeed LARGELY to blame ... they took a disgusting propaganda video and reported it AS NEWS.

DoD has press releases out of the wazoo and cant get time of day, but a bunch of thug kidnappers gets a kidnap vicitm to say idiotic and false things and *that* gets reported widely, as if it meant something.

MSM showed themselves to be channels of Jihadist agitprop.


153 posted on 04/03/2006 7:02:45 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: ThirstyMan

"AP via Yahoo: Former hostage Jill Carroll strongly disavowed statements she had made during captivity in Iraq and shortly after her release, saying Saturday she had been repeatedly threatened."

Good catch, ThirstyMan.

This is specific and clear case of AP repeating Jihadist lying propaganda as truth. And it is is exactly that lie which confused many of us.


154 posted on 04/03/2006 7:05:03 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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To: rockabyebaby
IMO this whole thing was staged, she should be arrested for the death of her translator, she's been living in Iraq for 3 years and I believe she is a terrorist sympathizer, I do not believe her latest statements were made under duress. She claims she was never threatened, treated well, etc. yet we have all seen the videos where she's practically in tears because she has been threatened with beheading. This does not pass the smell test.

My goodness, I sure hope you don't ever serve on jury duty. LOL I'm sure you probably realize that there are MANY Americans and folks from other countries as well, who are living and working in Iraq. So if that is one of the reasons you do not believe her story, you might want to re-think that one.

Also, we all saw the video where she was "practically in tears because she was being threatened", and then her video before her release where she praises her captors. Now, isn't it possible that she was scared to death in the first video, and trying to get out of her situation alive by saying what she did in the second video?

155 posted on 04/03/2006 7:08:37 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: ricks_place
Ms Jill's Jihadi Idol videos don't mean squat, if only because they can be renounced whether or not they were coerced. We won't know, so why bother sweating about it?! But Saint Jill's past writings and associations and her future ones are a different matter. If you haven't read Debbie Schlussel's take on it Premature Articulation, you oughta (1/3rd down the page.)
156 posted on 04/03/2006 7:16:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: E=MC<sup>2</sup>
I'm recalling another instance when Americans were forced to say things under duress, but they managed to let the world know their true feelings (the men of the USS Pueblo).

I think is some what disingenuous to compare the actions of US Navy men to a female reporter. Especially considering that the world knows how the brave men of the USS Pueblo were beaten miserably after the N Korans caught on the the meaning of "The Hawaiian Friendship Sign"

157 posted on 04/03/2006 7:22:20 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: clbiel
Not me. Better to die with honor than live with NONE.

Now, the best I could be in Iraq would be a civilian contractor of some sort. (Of course no job in that sand box would tempt me do do so no mater what the pay and I admit, I have a price)

If given the choice of between doing the Funky Chicken at the wrong end of a Sears Die-hard battery or doing a video, well just catch me on the evening news.

Easy to be brave tapping on a keyboard at home in the states, less so looking at a AK47 in Iraq.

158 posted on 04/03/2006 7:45:14 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: WOSG
"AP via Yahoo: Former hostage Jill Carroll strongly disavowed statements she had made during captivity in Iraq and shortly after her release, saying Saturday she had been repeatedly threatened."

Good catch, ThirstyMan.

This is specific and clear case of AP repeating Jihadist lying propaganda as truth. And it is is exactly that lie which confused many of us.

Why Thank You!
It now all makes more sense, doesn't it? The AP liars wanted us to believe that Jill was spouting the jihadist's praises after she was freed. Too many of our own took the bait too. Mike Gallagher made a whole show out of her "shameful video". (To be fair he changed his tune and did a whole show on how it was made under duress when he saw the light)

But there were so many contradictions in her pre-release video that were impossible to reconcile with what she had just been through.

Now that she is free she has made that quite clear.

159 posted on 04/03/2006 9:09:12 PM PDT by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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