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Father learned daughter connected to Duke case from media reports (Duke Lacrosse Coach Threatened)
Knight Ridder Newspapers; WRAL; NBC17 | TONYA JAMESON

Posted on 03/31/2006 8:03:52 PM PST by Howlin

DURHAM, N.C. - The father of the woman who has accused members of the Duke lacrosse team of sexually assaulting her said he didn't find out that his daughter was the reported victim - and that she is an exotic dancer - until a reporter visited his house.

The retired trucker who lives in Durham said he saw his daughter the day after the reported attack, but she didn't say anything was wrong. She even left her car at the house for several days because he said she didn't want to drive it.

Her father, a quiet man who tinkers on cars as a hobby, said he saw news reports about the attack.

"I didn't know it was my daughter," he said. The Charlotte Observer generally does not name victims of sexual assault, so his name is being withheld to protect the identity of his daughter.

The case has ignited campus protests and stirred racial tension in Durham. The woman at the center of the case is black, and the men she accuses are white. She also is a student at N.C. Central University, a historically black college near Durham's inner-city, compared with the more expensive Duke campus.

DNA tests have been conducted on 46 of the lacrosse players, who deny the allegations. A 47th member, who is black, was not tested because the woman said her attackers were white.

Last week, a reporter stopped by the reported victim's house looking for her, the woman's father said, but he said he didn't know what was going on. He called his daughter and she said the district attorney told her not talk to anyone.

"(She) didn't tell us anything about it," he said.

He said he also found out through the media that his daughter, who is the youngest of three, was an exotic dancer.

"She always told me she was going to work," he said.

On Friday, he installed a timing belt in a car and watched his daughter's two children play outside the house. He said working on cars and playing with the grandchildren helps take his mind off what's happening with his daughter.

He said she seems to be doing "pretty good," and so is the rest of the family. He said they haven't talked much about the reported incident, but it weighs heavily on his mind. He said he's grateful that N.C. Central has been so supportive, but he doesn't like how his daughter has been portrayed in the media. And he's especially frustrated that no one has been charged in the connection with the allegations.

"If it had been anybody but them, they would have been locked up, but yet they didn't because it's Duke," he said. "I hope them boys - if they did it - I hope they get what they deserve. I hope they don't go lenient on them."

District Attorney Michael Nifong said he's waiting for results of the DNA test and that he does not expect to file charges in the case any earlier than next week.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: crystalmangum; duke; dukelax; dukeu; lacrosse
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To: Howlin
Authorities reveal e-mail message

According to the warrant, which was unsealed today, a confidential source sent investigators a copy of the e-mail, which they believe originated from McFadyen's Duke University e-mail address. It was sent at 1:58 a.m. on March 14, about a half hour after the woman, an employee of an escort service, told police she had been raped at the party where she had been hired to perform.

"Tomorrow night, after tonights show, ive decided to have some strippers over," the message read. "However there will be no nudity. i plan on killing bitches as soon as the walk in and proceeding to cut their skin off."

The message goes on to read that he would find the act sexually gratifying.

McFadyen's attorney could not be reached this morning. Joe Cheshire, a lawyer representing one of the team captains, said the e-mail helps support the team's story. Team members told police, according to Cheshire, that they hired women to dance and those women left the party early.

"This e-mail, while the wording of it is, at best, unfortunate, if you read this e-mail and you also are aware of other e-mails that exist contemporaneous with these events, it's quite clear that no rape happened in that house," Cheshire said. "These boys were frustrated because they, as is already been reported, they thought these women had come and taken a bunch of money and started dancing and just decided to leave."

"If you see this case with things the police have not released, you see this case in a different light than the prosecutor going out there and saying, ‘they're guilty,'" Cheshire said. "Is it a horrible e-mail? Yes. Does it make the writer look good as a human being? Are there all kinds of moral and social issues that can be discussed about what went on that night? This e-mail does not in any way shape or form show that there was a violent sexual act that went on in that house. I would tell you that it in fact shows the opposite."

621 posted on 04/05/2006 9:34:51 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Howlin

I am at a lost with Chesire's and Ekstrand's line of thinking on this e-mail issue.


622 posted on 04/05/2006 9:37:55 AM PDT by TexKat
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N.C. NAACP asks for meeting with DA in Duke Lacrosse case

4/5/2006 10:21 AM By: Associated Press

(DURHAM) - North Carolina's NAACP chapter plans to keep watch on the investigation into allegations an exotic dancer was raped and beaten at a party hosted by members of Duke University's lacrosse team.

The Reverend William Barber II is the state conference president of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. He says as part of the scrutiny, the chapter has asked to meet with the district attorney.

No one has been charged in the case, but university president Richard Brodhead suspended the highly ranked team from play until the school learns more about what happened.

The lacrosse team's co-captains have denied that anyone was sexually assaulted or raped at the March 13th party.

District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he believes the woman was raped, based in part on a medical examination hours after she reported the alleged attack.

623 posted on 04/05/2006 9:44:18 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Howlin

FYI..NY Time sports section reports today that a member of the team, in 2005 was arrested for assaulting a male in Washington, DC


624 posted on 04/05/2006 9:52:11 AM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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To: Howlin

It's extreme bitter sarcasm, but the young man should know better than to put anything like that in writing, especially while his team is under investigation.


625 posted on 04/05/2006 10:53:28 AM PDT by Palladin ("Governor Lynn Swann."...it has a nice ring to it!)
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To: TexKat
I am at a lost with Chesire's and Ekstrand's line of thinking on this e-mail issue.

I agree with Chesire. I think it clearly shows that, at least in Madfadyen's mind, he believes they were wronged by the strippers and have an unsatisfied grievance against strippers, rather than vice versa. One would think that would not be the case had the partygoers beaten and raped the strippers and recovered their money.

It was only through reporters and articles that he learned his daughter told police she had been threatened with assault with a broomstick

I find it rather odd that the father considers this worth mentioning if his daughter was actually beaten, strangled, raped and sodomized.

"For example, some women and black students have reported feeling stressed when they are expected to speak for or defend the perspective of women and/or the black community"

So while white students are being beaten unconscious at nearby restaurants by local blacks because they're considered representative of "Duke rapists", what's troubling the perfessers is the "stress" felt by black and women students when talking about the incident.

We're pretty good on academic discipline," Haagen said. "Our standards are pretty clear. But have we got this right on social discipline?

Baker, who attended a tense, closed-door faculty meeting Thursday, said that in 38 years of teaching, he had never seen professors more angry -- and more willing to pitch in to help Duke make reforms and restore its reputation.

"Social discipline" of students by today's administrators and faculty? In the 1960s universities said they would no longer act as in loco parentis and try to uphold standards of social and moral decorum among college students, and thus we now have the libertine campus of today, awash in sex, drugs, alcohol and what have you.

However, I think it would actually be worse if today's administrators and faculties, with their neomarxist belief system, tried to reimpose social order on college campuses, because it would consist of little more than the persecution of whites, males, heterosexuals and Christians.

626 posted on 04/05/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; Howlin
Duke lacrosse coach resigns amid scandal

Associated Press

DURHAM, N.C. (AP) - Duke University's lacrosse coach resigned Wednesday and the school canceled the rest of the season amid a scandal involving allegations that three players raped a stripper at an off-campus party.

Mike Pressler spent 16 seasons at Duke and won three Atlantic Coast Conference championships. Last year, his team appeared in the national championship game. "Coach Pressler offered me his resignation earlier this afternoon, and I accepted it," said Duke athletic director Joe Alleva. "I believe this is in the best interests of the program, the department of athletics and the university."

The rape allegations have roiled the campus and the city of Durham, raised racial tensions and heightened the long-standing antagonism between the privileged students at the elite university and the poorer people of Durham.

The stripper is black and said her attackers were white. Investigators and witnesses have said the lacrosse players taunted her with racial slurs and insults.

Students and townspeople have marched on campus and off, angry over the school's handling of the allegations and the team members' refusal to cooperate with police. Investigators said the athletes are sticking together and keeping silent.

627 posted on 04/05/2006 2:50:09 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Palladin; TexKat

I have had time to ponder this, and I agree with you.

Who in their right mind would have participated in a gang rape and then rushed back to their dorm to INVITE people to his dorm the next night for strippers!


628 posted on 04/05/2006 2:52:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin

Shortly after an exotic dancer claimed she was raped at a Duke University lacrosse team party, a member of the squad sent an e-mail announcing that the following night he planned “to have some strippers over” and would be “killing the bitches” as soon as they walked into his dorm room.


629 posted on 04/05/2006 2:57:21 PM PDT by TexKat
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630 posted on 04/05/2006 2:58:48 PM PDT by TexKat
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http://www.deadspin.com/sports/lacrosse/duke-lacrosse-case-somehow-gets-uglier-165330.php

The actual email, which can be found here, was sent within an hour of the woman who accused team members of rape left the house.

631 posted on 04/05/2006 3:03:53 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
NCAA president says behavior at Duke party was inappropriate BOSTON (AP) -- NCAA president Myles Brand said behavior at a Duke men's lacrosse party last month was inappropriate, regardless of whether the alleged assault of an exotic dancer results in criminal charges. The dancer, a student at a nearby university, told police she was raped at the party by three men who restrained and choked her as she struggled to free herself from a bathroom. Investigators have collected DNA evidence from team members but no charges have been filed. A spokeswoman for North Carolina's attorney general's office said Tuesday the state's crime lab is still analyzing those samples. Brand said no assumptions about guilt or innocence should be made before the case runs its course. "Nonetheless, the situation that arose was inappropriate at best," he said in Boston, where he is attending the NCAA women's basketball championship game. "It is inappropriate that we should have any group of young men, let alone those who play on our athletic teams, inviting a stripper, underage alcohol and that kind of environment."
632 posted on 04/05/2006 3:10:22 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: TexKat

A photo provided by Duke University shows Duke lacrosse coach Mike Pressler, who resigned Wednesday, April 5, 2006, the same day the school canceled the rest of the season amid a burgeoning scandal involving allegations that three players raped a stripper at an off-campus party. (AP Photo/Duke University, Jon Gardiner)

633 posted on 04/05/2006 3:10:30 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Howlin; Palladin
According to this:

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/lacrosse/duke-lacrosse-case-somehow-gets-uglier-165330.php

(The player who sent the email is not one of the three players the woman accused of raping her.) But regardless of anything directly case-related: Good Lord.

634 posted on 04/05/2006 3:13:08 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat; Howlin

The mention of the green Honda is interesting. Perhaps the two strippers arrived in separate cars (given that they were from different escort agencies) but left together in a single car (the one driven by Kim, the second stripper) after the physical altercation. When the police arrived at Kroger, perhaps the strippers told the police that the first stripper had left her car, a green Honda, at the house and that they didn't feel safe in going back to get it. When the police then went back to the house, they therefore especially noted the presence of the green Honda, thereby corroborating to some extent the strippers' story, and this would explain the pointed reference to the green Honda in the affidavit.


635 posted on 04/05/2006 3:22:03 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Howlin
Who in their right mind would have participated in a gang rape and then rushed back to their dorm to INVITE people to his dorm the next night for strippers!

Howlin - No one in their right mind would ever write this bizarre e-mail. Being high or in a drunken stupid state is no excuse. To proclaim sexual excitement over the thought of killing and skinning a female.......the Duke community must be so ashamed of this whole sorid affair/alleged crime.

636 posted on 04/05/2006 3:37:21 PM PDT by proud2beconservativeinNJ
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To: twigs

I wonder how many hours she's taking. I wonder when was the last time she took a class. These strippers/escort places usually have online pics and description of their girls. I'd be curious to hear what hers was. The news is also reporting the student who booked the satrippers used a phony name. I wonder if the stripper uses her real name.


637 posted on 04/05/2006 3:40:48 PM PDT by Krankor (T)
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To: proud2beconservativeinNJ
Howlin - No one in their right mind would ever write this bizarre e-mail. Being high or in a drunken stupid state is no excuse. To proclaim sexual excitement over the thought of killing and skinning a female.......the Duke community must be so ashamed of this whole sorid affair/alleged crime. I agree it was a very stupid thing to say. But what is more important than some college kid making stupid remarks is the fact did a rape actually take place? The more Im reading Im really starting to wonder.
638 posted on 04/05/2006 3:42:59 PM PDT by markedmannerf
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Ryan McFadyen - Delbarton

Looking for the defenseman of the future? Here he is. College coaches are constantly looking for size and the 6-foot-5, 230-pound athlete can provide that. He can more than handle the toughest dodging attackman. However, he is also quick and nimble and can stay up with most players attempting to outrun or out finesse him. His size also helps him cover the passing lanes. He's great on clears and lethal on double teams.

His size makes him great at playing passing lanes, picking off passes and denying opponents a good target to pass to or from. He also has 33 ground balls to his credit. He was a solid competitor who kept his best games for postseason play including an outstanding effort in the state tournament final. McFadyen is headed for Duke. He was first team All-Fitch and second team All-State performer.

639 posted on 04/05/2006 3:43:12 PM PDT by TexKat
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